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Old 04-18-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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When a girl/woman is EXPOSED to the person's penis in the GIRLS'/WOMEN'S facilities, against her will and against her specific consent. Do you admit that's a problem?
Istart not a problem unless the person with the penis is doing it with the intent to sexually gratify themselves or another or to intentionally shock the person.

Jeez if a person on the beach gets hit by a wave and their shorts fall down, exposing their penis and a woman/ girl sees it, is that a crime too? Ask any policeman. Not all nudity is indecent exposure and/ or a crime.

If the transgendered person is allowed by law to be in the facility and a girl/woman gets a brief look at a penis, no it's not a crime.

As with a lot of crimes, intent plays a large part.

 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:41 PM
 
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Transgendered IS transsexual. A transgendered person may not have officially started their transition, or they may not have had the genital surgery for a number of different reasons.

Many people who are against transgenderism are also against various other segments of society: homosexuality, secularism, etc.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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The OCR report itself cited several instances in which the trans student violated school rules by using the girls' facilities when he was supposed to use a separate private facility.
And not once did it say that she exposed herself to anyone as you keep claiming.
Care to prove YOUR claims?
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:50 PM
 
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No, there is nothing in that report about the student exposing a penis. Try calming down and sticking with facts instead of letting your hysteria and prejudice leading you to make up lies.
I know the facts. I know the families involved. So do many others in the area. Your willful ignorance convinces no one but those who inexplicably disagree with law officials who will unequivocally state that it's a criminal offense to expose one's penis to a girl/woman against her will and against her specific consent. And it's a FELONY if it happens on school grounds or if the victim is a minor.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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I know the facts. I know the families involved. So do many others in the area. Your willful ignorance convinces no one but those who inexplicably disagree with law officials who will unequivocally state that it's a criminal offense to expose one's penis to a girl/woman against her will and against her specific consent. And it's a FELONY if it happens on school grounds or if the victim is a minor.
You make these claims, yet have no proof to back up your claims, therefore it makes me really question if you know these families as you claim seeing so far you have been only stating lies.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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not a problem unless the person with the penis is doing it with the intent to sexually gratify themselves or another or to intentionally shock the person.
Wrong. Let's look at NC law, for example, since NC's HB2 brought this to national attention...

§ 14-190.9. Indecent exposure.
(a) Unless the conduct is punishable under subsection (a1) of this section, any person who shall willfully expose the private parts of his or her person in any public place and in the presence of any other person or persons, except for those places designated for a public purpose where the same sex exposure is incidental to a permitted activity, or aids or abets in any such act, or who procures another to perform such act; or any person, who as owner, manager, lessee, director, promoter or agent, or in any other capacity knowingly hires, leases or permits the land, building, or premises of which he is owner, lessee or tenant, or over which he has control, to be used for purposes of any such act, shall be guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.

Repeat offenses, or the commission of such an act upon a minor victim, is a FELONY. Registered sex offender for life.

 
Old 04-18-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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Well when a girl sexually assaults your daughter, make sure to tell the police that it is perfectly legal and the girl did nothing wrong because she doesn't have a penis, she has a vagina.
Since when is sexual assault the same crime as indecent exposure sexual abuse? Two different offenses, but both are codified as sex crimes.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Since when is sexual assault the same crime as indecent exposure sexual abuse? Two different offenses, but both are codified as sex crimes.
Even still, forcing others to see your genitalia is a sexual assault. Though that doesn't change the fact that if one isn't showing their genitalia to others, then there is nothing that is wrong....though I am sure you will continue whine and force your lies onto others.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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So you can't take the Coaches word as to what happens in their classes, but you can take the word of someone that supposedly heard something from someone 2 years ago that might have happened.
Not "might," DID. If this was "no big deal" and the trans student wasn't egregiously flaunting exposed male genitalia in the girls' school facilities, why would so many parents be so angry? I mean really, how would anyone even know if "Student A" had a penis unless some of the girl students had actually unwillingly seen it?
 
Old 04-18-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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The only people the North Carolina law will impact is creepy perverts, so why is the Left so angry about it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dBpR36VFQM
Because this is just ANOTHER one of their MANY Wars on Women/Girls.
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