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Old 04-18-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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First you claim it was in the OCR report. It wasn't.
Actually, it is. Read it again. The report clearly lists several instances in which trans "Student A" violated school rules.

 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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"Policy," but not law. And gender identity is NOT a federally protected class. So guess what's going to happen when more students complain about those who "self-identify" as trans but haven't completed sex reassignment surgery exposing themselves in opposite gender facilities.

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You are assuming transgender women are exposing themselves to others, that would be a lie.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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I don't know how I'll ever know. I'm a woman and I go in the stall and shut the door. Everyone else in the women's restroom goes in the stall and shuts the door. How am I supposed to know what "equipment" someone is bringing with them?
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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What does "against their will" mean? If it's in the commission of simply getting dressed, and the transgendered person is just going about their business in a place the are legally allowed to be in, then no, it wouldn't appear to be a crime.
Is it specifically labeled as a unisex facility? If not, like I said, go into ANY police station and ask them what happens when someone exposes their penis to a girl or woman against her will.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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So we should ban transgender women from using the restroom, force them to use the men's room, then force transgender men to use the women's room....now that is gonna be awkward having a man use the women's room.
Have a penis? Use the men's room. Have a vagina? Use the women's room. Or, if available, use a facility specifically labeled as unisex. How hard is that?
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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"Policy," but not law. And gender identity is NOT a federally protected class. So guess what's going to happen when more students complain about those who "self-identify" as trans but haven't completed sex reassignment surgery exposing themselves in opposite gender facilities.
Aaaaaaand STILL nothing to back up your claims.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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That wasn't a transgendered person, so what does it add to this topic?
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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I said I know the families and students involved. I used to live in the Chicago suburbs. I have personal knowledge of this situation. It has negatively impacted people I know and care about. That's why I'm so adamant in trying to prevent it from happening to others.
BS. It's your lies that have been exposed, not the transgender student's penis.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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Have a penis? Use the men's room. Have a vagina? Use the women's room. Or, if available, use a facility specifically labeled as unisex. How hard is that?
Look like a man, use the men's room, look like a woman, use the women's room. No one is inspecting genitalia at the door. No sense in freaking women out to have a man who has a vagina using the women's room.

If a woman looks like a woman, how do you know she has a penis? If a man looks like a man, how do you know he has a vagina? You don't.
 
Old 04-18-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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You are assuming transgender women are exposing themselves to others, that would be a lie.
No, it's not. Trans of both sexes are inappropriately exposing their opposite sex genitalia in designated single sex facilities: the IL school case, and the PA university case.
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