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Old 04-08-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Morality not the issue. Abnormality is.
At one time interracial marriage was considered abnormal too.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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At one time interracial marriage was considered abnormal too.
marriage yes, sex no.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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marriage yes, sex no.
No one is teaching 4 year olds about sex. They are teaching about family structures.

When they say Sally has a mommy and a daddy", they are not teaching about the parents sex life.
When they say "Bobby has two daddies" they are not teaching about his parents sex life either.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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All my kids are grown. I have a girlfriend with an 8 year old child. The kid asked the mother "What is sex?" That is a very basic and simple question. We do not need to complicate the issue before the kids are clear about the basis. My adult kids when younger were all liberal progressives. Once they got older and wanted and had lives of their own...They all came to the realization that there is no real stable future in being a progressive...that there is no real value...They want traditional lives that are rich and satisfying as possible...Like having husbands....wives....kids....normal stuff..and yes the nuclear family is the norm.
Nothing in this story indicates that the pre-k kids were being taught anything about sexual activities or anything that would address the question asked by your girlfriend's 8 year old.

The same gender couples with kids that I have met (and I have met numerous) also "Like having husbands....wives....kids....normal stuff."
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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What you do not understand is the tolerance is defined as agreeing with the left. They will tolerate you if you agree with them. What you thought that road went both ways? Sill rabbit, equality is for liberals.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If someone came home and their dad was sitting there with a wig and dress on , they should just act like it is normal.. that is what they want to teach the kids.. weird..
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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No one is teaching 4 year olds about sex. They are teaching about family structures.

When they say Sally has a mommy and a daddy", they are not teaching about the parents sex life.
When they say "Bobby has two daddies" they are not teaching about his parents sex life either.
Seems a whole lot more is going on when a 4 year-old comes home worried that "her dad might no longer like girls".
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Seems a whole lot more is going on when a 4 year-old comes home worried that "her dad might no longer like girls".
How do you know the child learned that from school? It was not part of the curriculum.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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That isn't how a 4 year old thinks. They don't dissect every possible connection of a picture. They may relate a picture to their own experience. " I have a mommy and daddy too".
How a 4 year old thinks and how an adult teaches are two different things. No one is objecting to how the 4 year old thinks, but people are objecting to the classroom material taught by adults.

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They are not discussing the relationship of the couple, but the relationship to the child. "Bobby has two daddies" Not "Bobby has two daddies who are married and love each other."
Citation needed. I don't have access to their curriculum, do you? I assume you didn't just make that up.

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I don't have to find studies, I am a parent and know that by the age of 4 children know what parents are.
I never said 4 year olds don't know what parents are. And you DO have to find studies if you think teaching homosexual or heterosexual relationships is age-appropriate material for all 4 year olds. Anecdotes aren't evidence. Willful ignorance isn't evidence. Dogma isn't evidence.

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Why are you still deflecting from your claims about gender reassignment processes on 3-5 year olds?
It's not deflection, it's postponement. I don't want to start a second topic with you if you're unable to support your assertions in the first.

So it's back to my question...
Is 4 too young to learn about hetero and homosexual relationships? If no, please show me the academic studies showing 4 year olds are capable of understanding that. If yes, you agree with me, and we can move on.

Let's see the studies.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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How do you know the child learned that from school? It was not part of the curriculum.
Can you link us to the curriculum so we can see exactly what it is? Assuming you didn't make that up, you must have access to it...
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