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Old 10-01-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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No justice in this town. Neither officer was charged and charges against Yourse were not dropped until both resigned..
I could see charging the one officer with simple assault or disorderly conduct. What would you charge the other officer with? Either one is a class 2 misdemeanor in North Carolina, mandating no jail time on the first offense, but you could get him with a fine of up to $1000 (though it would be less than that since he currently does not have a job). Either one is eligible for expungement after 2 years, so no criminal record at that point. Neither would be disqualifying from him getting a job as a police officer elsewhere.

Simple assault is harder to convict, but disorderly conduct often means charging both parties involved. Maybe it would make the community happier to see the officer charged with something, but it would be a lot for extracting an extra $1,000; with the added risk of him beating the indictment. Disorderly conduct does not necessarily mean charging the person he attacked, but it is a law designed for charging all people involved.

So, you're the DA. What do you do in that situation? Either option looks pretty much like a pyrrhic victory with the additional risk of failing to get a conviction.

 
Old 10-01-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Someone called the police, OK. This guy produced an ID and the address that he was at was listed on the ID. That should have been the end of this dispatch. But no, the police escalated the situation because they are programmed to undervalue African Americans. This is much worse than racial profiling.. There's a systematic problem with ingrained bigotry and hate...
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This stuff happens in high crime white trash trailer parks too.
Going into a war zone and the rules go out the window, for those with a target on their backs while wearing a badge... which is a license to hassle anyone...
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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Guess we just forgot about all the police love for whites we saw with Occupy Wall Street.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZKfC1OP1S4



Funny that.
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Guess we just forgot about all the police love for whites we saw with Occupy Wall Street.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZKfC1OP1S4



Funny that.
Yes, cops beat on blacks and hippies. Old news.
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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This stuff happens in high crime white trash trailer parks too.
Going into a war zone and the rules go out the window, for those with a target on their backs while wearing a badge... which is a license to hassle anyone...
The bolded statement can't be farther from the truth BentBow. I rolled through baghdad and there where teenagers up and down the streets flipping us off. I didn't beat the snot of of them because in a high stress environments disciple is critical. And holding people accountable and good training is key to a disciplined force...
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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I could see charging the one officer with simple assault or disorderly conduct. What would you charge the other officer with? Either one is a class 2 misdemeanor in North Carolina, mandating no jail time on the first offense, but you could get him with a fine of up to $1000 (though it would be less than that since he currently does not have a job). Either one is eligible for expungement after 2 years, so no criminal record at that point. Neither would be disqualifying from him getting a job as a police officer elsewhere.

Simple assault is harder to convict, but disorderly conduct often means charging both parties involved. Maybe it would make the community happier to see the officer charged with something, but it would be a lot for extracting an extra $1,000; with the added risk of him beating the indictment. Disorderly conduct does not necessarily mean charging the person he attacked, but it is a law designed for charging all people involved.

So, you're the DA. What do you do in that situation? Either option looks pretty much like a pyrrhic victory with the additional risk of failing to get a conviction.
An accessory to the crime. The police charge people with this all the time...

they came together and she appears to encourage his actions while not stopping him... The one officer cold cocked a handcuffed man at least two times for no reason...
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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Yes, cops beat on blacks and hippies. Old news.

Then why isn't it hippies lives matter?
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I watched the video. This is one of the few stories where I agree that the cops were wrong. In this case I think the male cop should have been charged.
And we have a winner.

The problem is we can't have a serious discussion on policing and/or racism when one side (the SJWs) refuse to utilize information/technology and examine these incidents on a case by case basis.

As for this specific incident:

1. Fired
2. Charged to fullest extent
3. Complete review of all their previous arrests
4. Complete internal investigation by outside source of the department
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by gwynedd1 View Post
Guess we just forgot about all the police love for whites we saw with Occupy Wall Street.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZKfC1OP1S4



Funny that.
The cops did brutalize those kids. I was in the coty often during that time and saw it first hand.
 
Old 10-01-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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And we have a winner.

The problem is we can't have a serious discussion on policing and/or racism when one side (the SJWs) refuse to utilize information/technology and examine these incidents on a case by case basis.

As for this specific incident:

1. Fired
2. Charged to fullest extent
3. Complete review of all their previous arrests
4. Complete internal investigation by outside source of the department
I agree with your four points. In this particular case none on these things happened. What is our recourse?
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