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Percentage wise it happens to blacks more. Numbers wise it happens to whites more. This is basic knowledge yet you don't know it? You've been in discussions on this subject and you have to ask?
So you admit that given their population, there is a higher percentage of blacks this happens to.
I have not read any other posts so as to give my view without knowing what other peoples perspectives are.
That said, I do not accept you trying to conflate the Gates arrest with this one, as the two are completely separate issues. I also do not accept you trying to justify or explain Kaepernicks disrespect toward America and the 9/11 victims based on this encounter.
You left off mom and apple pie.
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I will start out by saying that up until about the 8 minute mark everything seemed fairly routine in the interaction between police and the suspect. I do refer to him as a suspect, because the police didn't just happen to stop and find him, they received a call from someone saying a suspicious man was doing something with a shovel, therefore the police already suspect something might not be right with this guy. I will also note that the suspect having prison tats and the cop noticing this heightens the suspicion level.
The cop tries to empathize with the guys story, and even is heard laughing with him.
In my view the trouble starts when the guy again tries to leave despite having been told to not attempt to go to the guys house (Charlie) next door, and the cop who is standing on the steps puts his hand out to prevent him from going any further. He tells the guy to sit back down, and the guy begins to have a change of attitude.
Then the guy makes a huge mistake by calling a friend and asking for them to come to the scene because the police are harassing him. As an individual I'd never have done that as it will only escalate the tension between myself and the cop.
From the cops perspective, he now wants to prevent any further attempts to have this guy have other friends of his head toward the house.
Now the first question I have for you, is if you were the cop in this situation, would you want this guy calling his friends to come to the scene?
If not then you obviously would demand he turn over his phone. The suspect obviously refused to hand it over and that is when everything escalated. . Under normal circumstances cops probably do not have the need or maybe even the authority to take someones phone who has not committed a crime. However that clearly changed when this guy calls his friend to come over.
As I watched the rest of the video, it was hard to tell what exactly was going on. The cop regardless of the physical arrest kept jawing back and forth with the suspect, which was an error in my view. He should only have stated commands and expected the guy to comply. By jawing back and forth, it only served to keep the tension high because the suspect was belligerent and it served to make him more so.
Now, regardless of whether the guy should have been arrested or not for refusing to turn over his phone and pulling it away from the cops grasp is one thing. We can 2nd guess whether the cop could have verbally commanded the guy to put his phone down, and if the guy complied, maybe none of this would have played out this way.
We can also wonder if the suspect had kept his seat and just let the cops do their job without trying to leave the area, or call his friend to come over, maybe none of this would have happened.
In my view both could have handled the situation better to avoid the physical arrest. Frankly, I do not see a racial component to this as I suspect if the cop were black and the suspect were white, this still could have happened if both acted in the same manner. Many a white suspect gets punched or injured when scuffling with the police.
With all that said, I'd like to know what the end result of the story is, regarding whether this guy should have been at that location. The article made it sound like no charges were filed against the suspect, which leads you to believe it was ok for him to be there. It also made it sound like the cop was stripped of his credentials to be a LEO.
Even if the cop was fired, I would be surprised they would attempt to take his ability to work away for this one incident. Neither he nor the guy were seriously hurt. So for the cop to lose his career over this one incident seems suspicious. Either he had a jacket full of incidents showing too much aggression, or it was a politically motivated action against him.
Anyone know or have a reasoned view on why he was dealt with so harshly?
Prison tats? At what timestamp? I see no tattoos. You just assumed.
The tattoo comment is made right in the video where the guy affirmed that he had been in prison.
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harge 1:
Assault And Battery
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 03/20/2016
Charge 2:
Maintn Veh/Dwell/Place Cs (M)
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 03/02/2016
Charge 3:
Speeding
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 10/17/2015
Charge 4:
Possess Marijuana Up To 1/2 Oz
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 09/09/2015
Charge 5:
Pwisd Marijuana
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 09/09/2015
Charge 6:
Poss Cs Prison/Jail Premises
Charging County: Guilford, NC
Charge Date: 09/09/2015
http://atlaspublicrecords.com/name/d...-nc/0d09153fc3
Cops deal with this kind of stuff all the time, and they get sick of it. They know prison Tattoos, they get BS all the time from "gangsta's" who don't have jobs and have to hang around the outside of their Mama's house because Mama has good reason to keep him out.
The cop will get canned, but he called it correctly.
So you admit that given their population, there is a higher percentage of blacks this happens to.
Admit? lol keep trying
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That's the damn point.
Reasons matter. A thought process helps. Why is it less important when whites get abused? The point is over reaching law enforcement. Skin color is just a symptom.
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The tattoo comment is made right in the video where the guy affirmed that he had been in prison.
Dejuan A Yourse Public Record | #2 Mistywood Ct Greensboro Nc
Cops deal with this kind of stuff all the time, and they get sick of it. They know prison Tattoos, they get BS all the time from "gangsta's" who don't have jobs and have to hang around the outside of their Mama's house because Mama has good reason to keep him out.
The cop will get canned, but he called it correctly.
I know this hard for some of you, but try really hard to think before typing.
What was he doing that warranted this treatment? What specific laws did he break in sitting on a porch?
That cop was searching for someone to arrest to raise money for the state so he could keep his job.
When law enforcement has an agenda it doesn't matter.
As a side note, people need to quit showing their "papers" just because police asked. Don't answer their questions.
Which is it? People need to follow the orders of cops or just ignore cops questions and not provide them with anything?
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