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In my view both could have handled the situation better to avoid the physical arrest.
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Originally Posted by SoloforLife
Bolded excuse above. Cop supporters harp this all the time. But the question is, which one has been trained to de-escalate these encounters? Why should taxpayers continue to spend $millions on training that changes nothing with these bullies and turds?
While police are trained to take control of situation, you re correct that most departments train to de-escalate when it does not undermine their ability to control the situation.
That said, my comment should not spark derision since it points out how both could have handled the situation better.
Unless, you feel the suspect acted 100% perfect, and did nothing wrong?
I have made a couple questionable choices when dealing with LE over the years (i.e. refusing to lay face down on the street while in a business suit during a traffic stop), but in this instance we all can see where the suspect made a couple of poor choices. I certainly wouldn't have attempted to leave a 2nd time, and would not have called a friend to come to the scene. I doubt most people, regardless of their color would do that, and have never actually even heard of that before.
In my view both could have handled the situation better to avoid the physical arrest.
While police are trained to take control of situation, you re correct that most departments train to de-escalate when it does not undermine their ability to control the situation.
That said, my comment should not spark derision since it points out how both could have handled the situation better.
Unless, you feel the suspect acted 100% perfect, and did nothing wrong?
I have made a couple questionable choices when dealing with LE over the years (i.e. refusing to lay face down on the street while in a business suit during a traffic stop), but in this instance we all can see where the suspect made a couple of poor choices. I certainly wouldn't have attempted to leave a 2nd time, and would not have called a friend to come to the scene. I doubt most people, regardless of their color would do that, and have never actually even heard of that before.
BLM will soon begin one of their violent riots and only make the situation worse. If you don't want situations like this to happen then you can't give rioters a free pass either.
I suppose when you don't understand what a stereotype is there is no where to go.
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I already told you what it essentially was. I even corrected my sloppy editing for ya:
The only time not to use "stereotypes" is when you have specific information. However that means investing more time and research. If its not my priority, then I go with the odds.
A stereotype is "common knowledge" . Cops sitting around in donut shops is "common knowledge". Since I don't really care, I can simply accept that its true to some extent. Why ? The Fire department is usually at the fire station. Police go on patrol The police simply have a job that tends to give opportunity. So there is likely some truth to it. That does not mean it is true. Stereotype or "common knowledge" can be true or untrue, or simply right or wrong in magnitude. There is nothing weak minded about it. Some heavily researched stereotypes turned out to be true. Its still a stereotype.
Want to know another stereotype? White serial killers. Its actually wrong. Turns out blacks are overrepresented as serial killers. However since its only almost double the rate, unlike the 20-50 times crime rate in other crime categories, white certainly do much more poorly here than say violent rapes.
When dealing with something important , stereotypes can be harmful. There are some subjects that need to be verified. We also have a civilian society and even though its true some races are more prone to certain crimes, we deal with issues at the civilian and individual level. However when the stake are low and research may be lacking, I have no reason not to go with the odds.
Best thing to do is ask if you are under arrest. If they say no, remain mute.
That's it. If they ask again , you may inform them you intend to remain mute. If you are arrested then you should speak in the presence of legal advice. If you are indeed wrongly arrested then you, are on firm ground to sue for false arrest.
When the guy got on the phone and starting speaking ghetto, it set the cop off. It looks like the cop has PTSD from all time he spent policing the hood.
I think you are on the money......there is definitely something wrong with that cop - whether its PTSD or he was just born a jackass. He escalated the whole situation on his own.
The brother was much more calm than I would have been if I was in the same situation.
I have said this. We need to be careful about who were recruit into the police force. If an officer cannot handle someone's dialect, why are they an officer?
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