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Sorry. A true libertarian believes in an extremely restricted government and unencumbered individual liberty, with essentially protection from foreign invasion and protection from one another being the federal government's main duty.
That is certainly not what Republicans believe.
Now, to be fair, there are many "flavors" of libertarianism (although I'd argue that most are not really libertarian ideals) and some are essentially the same as Republican ideology with a different label. But certainly not a "hardcore" libertarian. Talk to a few real libertarians sometime (not college kids in dorms, as you won't find any there), and if you are honest, there is no way you could claim they are republicans with a straight face. Some Libertarians want no government at all. Does that sound Republican to you?
How about you pay for your own life choices. Socialism is dead.
Sometimes good sound solid decisions don't work out through no fault of that person. Yet those who lead charmed privileged lives refuse to believe that. Sad really. Karma sometimes changes that warped mindset, sometimes no. As for me, I choose empathy and understanding, because it's what I believe in. Karma has rewarded me for it. I'm a better person in every possible category, and enjoy a better life than someone like you. #success
I'm willing to help people in need. I'm not willing to help people who suck.
You know, that's actually a pretty good point (although I wouldn't have used the word "suck"). Many people who live permanently on public assistance are playing the system. They do not appreciate what is being done for them and they go out of their way to push their limits whilst remaining on the public dole. I often ride on public transit to my job. I see these people close up every day. There is a homeless shelter/soup kitchen close to one of the transit centers and they ride the buses and trains for free. I listen to their conversations. Some of them sound like nice folks who are down on their luck. But too many of them are basically giving those who support them the finger. They brag about what they get away with. They brag that they don't have to do anything to support themselves and essentially ride the buses around all day doing whatever they please. They brag about getting away with breaking the law. They brag about spending time in prison as if it is a wonderful thing. They sneak pints of vodka onto the bus (now where did they get the money for that?). And they are generally hostile because, even though they are basically being kept alive via our tax dollars, they feel really picked on. It's a game to them.
Again, not all of them are like that. I've talked to many who are decent people and have had life dump on them for whatever reason. But too many are basically leeches who, as you said... "suck" (suck tax dollars and laugh, that is).
The smartest move Trump could make would be to sit back, perform only the (mostly-ceremonial) duties with which he's charged and let the free markets clear up most of the imbalances under sensible Republican/Conservative management.
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You sound like a Republican shill.
In truth, that's all libertarians are. Whether a shill or an apologist, always a Republican.
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I voted for Sanders and then Stein and I agree with what was stated. Trump would be wise to do exactly as stated.
Theorizing aside, I don't know of too many Republicans or Libertarians who still cling to the idea of cutting down the safety net "cold turkey"; we simply want it moved closer to local oversight, where the abusive more-than-a-few can be identified and restrained.
Theorizing aside, I don't know of too many Republicans or Libertarians who still cling to the idea of cutting down the safety net "cold turkey"; we simply want it moved closer to local oversight, where the abusive more-than-a-few can be identified and restrained.
I don't know that is what was said. It was said that Trump should just sit back and let the kids fight it out. He can't do that though as he is far too thin skinned.
One pays less tax, while the other receives money from the government. Yes, it is a big difference, especially considering the fact that corporations don't pay taxes, people pay taxes. And, most corporate tax monies is paid by the average citizen through higher prices, lower wages, less jobs and lower investment returns.
Exactly correct, but many people are too stupid to realize that. /SMH
I Believe in welfare to the poor and the needy. Don't believe in corporate welfare. Most corporate executives have their golden parachutes. Hate the wealthy whining about giving social welfare when they have more money than they could spend in a lifetime
we kick our "non perfect"- to include vets that return from war-- people with disabilities- poor- old- uneducated- bad credit-- those been to jail even if just a slight error like smoking weed-- list goes on- we build this image of success and everyone else is dirt --
Yeah, that's a great response to some young person who aims high. "Forget about it kid, you ain't going anywhere so stop dreaming."
Do you have any idea how stupid and counterproductive that is?
What if it's true? In reality, most people will not amount to much. Most will get a decent job that they probably won't care about. They do it to pay for stuff. And that's it. A machine could do that, and the way I see it, if a machine could do what you do, you're not actually alive. You're not dead, but the only difference between having died and not really living is that when you finally do die, they'll get some other person to do exactly what you did. Were you truly alive, you'd be irreplaceable.
And I'm not saying we tell people "**** it, nothing matters." I'm saying our culture needs to re-assess it's values. Maybe living to work isn't really a good thing, even if it allows our politicians to wave their big GDPenises around at other countries and when they're running for re-election.
I Believe in welfare to the poor and the needy. Don't believe in corporate welfare.
What corporate 'welfare?' Do corporations get Food Stamps? Medicaid? Welfare? Section 8 housing? What means-tested social welfare benefits do corporations get?
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