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Old 06-02-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Looking ahead, it’s possible that Republicans in 2018 and President Trump in 2020 could win based on solid achievements. But their chances will be better if Democrats can’t shake off their bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Maybe they will win, but it won't have anything to do with any sort of made-up syndrome.

It will be because more people voted for them... and gerrymandering, of course.
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Old 06-02-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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How was I defending them? I just said they are horrible people. In what universe is that any sort of defense?

I surely would not want to hang out with any of them.

I would not want them for neighbors. I would like any of them who have committed crimes to be arrested.

Where's that "defending" them?

I am opposed to calling any people "animals."

Trump's history of white nationalist sympathizing makes for bad optics when he refers to brown folks as animals.

It just does. I am stunned that you cannot see that.

Because there are plenty of brown folks who are decent, law-abiding citizens.

Do you think all of them are going to think "Oh, Trump only means those MS13 people an animals, not all of us who look like them."

Or, do you think that there might be a good many nonwhite folks who think that Trump is being particularly aggressive and rude to label them that way?


I mean, he did not call the white guy who rammed that girl in Charlottesville ON PURPOSE an animal, did he?

Nope.

He does not refer to Richard Spencer and his ilk as "animals" does he? Nope.

Do you at all see the problem with him saying stuff like that?

If we were in the middle of a situation like WWII and he'd referred to some other white guys, the Nazis, as animals, I doubt anyone would argue except the most extreme pacifists.

But, that is not what he's doing here. He says stuff like this and I really don't think he thinks about it at all. He just says whatever.

It's not alright just because these people have broken the law, to refer to those human beings as animals.

You are aware that the Bronx zoo once had a black man from the Congo in a cage as a display in the early 1900s, right? It was barely a hundred years ago.

I guess folks thought of him as an "animal" too.

Settle down Clarence.

Exactly where in my post did I say you were defending MS-13?

Assuming comments made about a general group of people are directed at you specifically is another symptom of TDS .....


And for the record, Trump never called all Mexicans, Hispanics or "Brown People" animals
 
Old 06-02-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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I would guess the first symptom of TDS is denying it exists.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 02:38 PM
 
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Nah.... they just don't like him or what he's trying to do.

That's not deranged. It's a constitutional right to criticize the government.
The same as the right didn't like Obama's agenda but the left didn't think it was a right to disagree with Obama. To silence them anyone who dare disagreed with Obama was called racist, bigots, ect. Some people still to this day actually believe that people didn't like "him" based on his skin color (I've seen them post this many, many times) as if they expected everyone to agree with everything Obama did simply because he is black. Either way, I don't remember the right screaming, crying, running to safe spaces, needing crayons, rioting like the left is doing.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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On one MSNBC talk show, the panelists predicted a historic defeat for Trump. MSNBC host Rachel Maddow confidently and laughingly made predictions about Trump’s trouncing defeat at the hands of Clinton. There were many other highly confident election predictions of Trump’s defeat all over the internet and in the media, both national and international.

Then, Trump elected president, there were emotional crackups. On the internet, people crying and screaming and cursing the election results, celebrities claiming they would leave the country. Colleges had cry-ins and gatherings for primal screams. Students were provided therapy dogs, coloring books, Play-Doh, and videos of playful kittens and puppies. The ongoing liberal response to Clinton’s defeat. They call it Trump derangement syndrome.

Evidence of continuing Trump derangement syndrome can be found in the calls for his impeachment by members of Democrat Congress... Maxine Waters, Al Green, and Brad Sherman.

The accusation of Russian collusion started with a Russian dossier that the Hillary camp paid for ... Russia, Russia, Russia and on and on, yet still no evidence. Next setting their sites on a porn ho while liberals continued to tune in daily in hopes that she will bring Trump down (keeping liberal media viewership up and making liberal pundits rich).

More evidence is standing for something but when Trump agree's immediately being against it. Of course I could go on and on...
I don't really care for Rachel Maddow.

I also told dozens of people that I thought Trump might win.

I think he's a horrible president. What in the world has he actually done that's good? He sucks at public speaking, so his trips are weird because the other world leaders are polished and articulate and he sounds like a doofus.

He has signed a ton of EOs, something he swore he would not do and criticized Obama for doing, but he sure loves those things.... even when they will never amount to anything, he signs them and declares them a victory.

Anyone can sign paper they probably didn't read.

He cannot get anything brokered in Congress and he's got a Republican-controlled Congress. Any other R by now would have been really cranking things out with Congress because that's every President's dream scenario, to have a Congress tilted in their favor.

He just tweets and says weird crap like how we'll stop buying Mercedes because they're German and he has no idea that we have Mercedes plants in the US and Chevy plants in Mexico.

He's just not knowledgeable about running a country and has zero desire, so it seems, to learn about it.

I think the stories that come out once he leaves office will be a major eye opener.
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Old 06-02-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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There is a treatment for Trump derangement syndrome. Instead of watching MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, NBC News, and CBS for your "news", try tuning in elsewhere or getting another point of view. By no means do I recommend that liberals go cold turkey on the mainstream media. They should start out by listening to other media for only about five minutes per day to avoid shock.
I don't watch any of those.

I don't watch TV.

I invite anyone who is determined that Trump is so fabulous to stop all the Fox, Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc and see if the world seems so scary once they do.

I am thinking it won't.
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Old 06-02-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Actually.... if you keep on telling me I have a mental disorder, you're probably attacking me personally, and that's a violation of the TOS, so no...

Oh what a powerful position. You want to call the authorities on me while pretending that Trump Derangement Syndrome is actually an accusation that you have a mental dis order. "Words means things" LOL. Yeah almost never literally and the context always matters. How many people throw racist and sexist around as if that is not an insult? What a pathetic response beneath my contempt.




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you probably do not have the right to keep telling me that I, personally, have some sort of mental disorder just because I don't like Trump and you do.
I probably have the right? . You keep talking about nothing.



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I am not talking about Clintons or Bushes or Obamas here. I am talking about Trump. I have never liked him. He comes across as full of himself, sleazy, and generally of poor manners.
Oh yeah , **** luck comparing actual people to your idealogical messiah figure, mystery X candidate ridding on a cloud mist on a chariot. Trump could have been worse than HRC, and I would have voted for him because he is disruptive to the corrupt political class. The ruler never cared which poor saps they set again the other and neither do I.


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I thought that before he ever decided to run for office. My opinion as far as that goes is NOT political.

I just don't like him.
Oh well boo hoo thanks for wasting everyone's ones time about your soap opera characters in political forum. I don't like one of my neighbors.


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If you must drag the Clintons into this, I never thought much of Bill's philandering, but he's affable enough as a person outside of that part of his personality and if Hillary could live with it, it wasn't any of my business unless he had some sort of charges brought against him for rape or assault.
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I am dragging all previous presidents into this because its more relevant than than mystery messiahs. And Bill Clinton probably did rape a few people but there was not enough conclusive evidence to disrupt a sitting president. He certainly had more on him then a lot of "me too" targets. I still had to actually consider him a sitting president, and I still had to go on the actual result of his polices.


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And, that's my opinion of the Clintons. Do I think all politicians are into it for money and prestige? Sure.

Do I dislike all of them entirely? Nah.

Do I dislike Trump entirely? Yes. But, I did before he ever tried to play politician.

That's all. It's not partisan. I just think he's a jackass.

What a waste of everyone's time.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Interesting piece from last year in Salon. https://www.salon.com/2017/01/08/you...e-his-critics/

"Ironically, efforts to pathologize or psychologize those who oppose Donald Trump actually reflect deeper problems with both him as a candidate and now president-elect, as well as his supporters. Psychologists and other observers have concluded that Donald Trump may suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. He is an egomaniac with delusions of grandeur. Trump is also profoundly ignorant, and as the Atlantic pointed out in a blistering condemnation during the 2016 campaign, "he appears not to read." His movement possesses the attributes of a political cult. Trump is now also the leader of a Republican Party (and broader conservative movement) that acts more like a religion than a functional political organization interested in responsible governance."

I see this constantly on this forum, and I'm not sure if people who constantly go on about it realize that nobody actually thinks this is a disorder. It's just a nuisance where people toss it casually into any attempt to hold a conversation where parties are not in agreement.
First of all, I wouldn't expect anything less from Salon.

Regardless, rest assured that while their might not be a clinical name for the unreasoned & irrational hatred of every single thing Trump does (and by extension his family and administration), it is not normal and sound mental behavior.
This is not to say Trump carrying out the conservative agenda he promised on the campaign, will not bother those liberals/leftists out there who believe in the opposite ideology.
That is just as understandable as conservatives being bothered when Obama was carrying out his leftist/liberal agenda.
However when it turns from being bothered or even upsetting to actual vehement hatred of the man and his family, it has crossed a line of normalcy.

The most recent example is that so called comedian Bee. She takes some innocent picture of Trumps daughter holding his grandchild, and turns it into a vile disgusting vulgar diatribe about Trump. She used terms that anyone else using would be accused of misogyny at best.
It was indefensible, yet her audience were cheering/clapping in the background.

Many of the more extremists on the left are obsessed with hatred of Trump to the point that they search for any little story critical of him, and conflate it to being the end of the world.
Whether you agree with me or not, any reasoned person must see how some of these people are suffering from some sort of mental unbalance or illness related to Trump.
Thus some of us have coined and/or use the acronym of TDS to explain the aforementioned.


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Old 06-02-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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The bottom line is this, if you are so heavily invested in a candidate, emotionally, psychologically and politically, any opposition to that candidate is an affront to you personally.

The term TDS says less about the person opposing the candidate, but more about the person using the term, i.e. if you do not agree with me there is something wrong with you.

The fallacy of the argument is that it is based on emotion and nothing else. If you can not separate your emotion from fact, you have enveloped yourself in a bubble. This bubble is apparent in all fanatical pro-Trump posters, of which there are quite a few on this forum.

The poster asserting TDS should look in the mirror. That is where the real issues are.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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Bringing up Hitler is a sign of Trump Derangement Syndrome. And you failed the test. You have it.



ROTFLMAO. You can't do it.
No... you just don't make any sense.

I wasn't comparing Trump to Hitler... I was speaking of someone that most people agree is awful and saying anyone could think of something good about anyone else and it means NOTHING. I also brought up Manson. Another person that most people do not consider to be a good person.

I don't like Donald Trump.

I cannot think of anything good about him off the top of my head.

He's not attractive... he's not accomplished in any of the ways I consider to be admirable.

Mind you, I thought this decades ago. This isn't something I decided after he was elected where I previously thought he was great.

I'm not Oprah.

I have never liked what I've seen of him. Maybe I would have if I'd met him at some point, but I rather doubt it.

There are people I meet, rarely, but there are some, that I just don't like. I tried to think of some way to compliment his appearance right now, but he's never been good looking at all. Weak chin, weird hairline, smirky expression. Mouth usually hanging open.

Oh... hold up. I liked that he put his and Marla's wedding photos on the chips at his casinos in Atlantic City because it was hilariously vain. That actually amused me. I spent a few days in some of them back in the mid 90s.

There. I thought of a thing.

See? I actually have just never liked him.
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