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Old 06-02-2018, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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I don't think they did. I think they just didn't like Obama.

It's not a psychological syndrome. It's just dislike. Even if it seems to be unreasonable, people are free to like and dislike whatever they want.
I actually agree with this statement. Now if we could only manage to convince those on the left that the color of Obama's skin was not the primary reason many people didn't like him, we'd be getting somewhere. But that may be asking a bit to much from the left, seeing as how that has been their "go to" narrative for the last 10 years or so. I'm sure there were some who didn't like Obama because he was a black man, but those people were definitely in the minority. Most didn't like Obama for his policies, not his race.

 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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No... you just don't make any sense.

I wasn't comparing Trump to Hitler... I was speaking of someone that most people agree is awful and saying anyone could think of something good about anyone else and it means NOTHING. I also brought up Manson. Another person that most people do not consider to be a good person.

I don't like Donald Trump.

I cannot think of anything good about him off the top of my head.

He's not attractive... he's not accomplished in any of the ways I consider to be admirable.

Mind you, I thought this decades ago. This isn't something I decided after he was elected where I previously thought he was great.

I'm not Oprah.

I have never liked what I've seen of him. Maybe I would have if I'd met him at some point, but I rather doubt it.

There are people I meet, rarely, but there are some, that I just don't like. I tried to think of some way to compliment his appearance right now, but he's never been good looking at all. Weak chin, weird hairline, smirky expression. Mouth usually hanging open.

Oh... hold up. I liked that he put his and Marla's wedding photos on the chips at his casinos in Atlantic City because it was hilariously vain. That actually amused me. I spent a few days in some of them back in the mid 90s.

There. I thought of a thing.

See? I actually have just never liked him.
***Special note to another one of your posts. Josef Menegle and Hitler were not on opposing sides during WWII. Instead he was probably more evil than Hitler, being a sadistic murderer under the guise of being a MD. I guess he forgot his Hippocratic Oath or was not in school that day.

I guess you missed my post or have just not gotten around to responding. However your reply above directed at another poster has me baffled, especially in light of your OP.

We are talking about TDS, not whether regular folks who don't like Trump as president do so for rational/ideological reasons, right?

So while you do not strike me as someone with TDS that I recall, why do you boil down what you dislike about him on a physical and/or attractiveness level?

I am a hetero guy, so his looks are irrelevant to me. But even if Hillary would have been elected, I would not be judging her on her looks, attractiveness to me, etc.
That would be completely irrelevant to how she was doing her job.

As to not being able to find even one thing you like about him, I find that had to believe, so maybe you are starting to be infected by other people/posters with TDS.
I certainly can fault in any president, but I can also find favor as well, even for those who I ideologically/politically oppose.
So let me take one recent example of something positive Trump did, and use it as a thermometer to gauge whether you are coming down with TDS.

Trump signed into law the "Right To Try" bill aimed at helping terminally ill patients access drug treatments, that are yet to be fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
To me that seems like a no brainer, but I do not suffer from TDS.
So what is your view on this?


Diagnosis to follow your reply.



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Old 06-02-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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I read a piece the other day... I wish I could recall who wrote it or I'd post it here, where some prominent Republicans pretty much acknowledged that the party had been hijacked and it was now the Party of Trump.

It's not your grandpa's Republican party anymore.

No telling whether or not that will change going forward, but right now he is saying what his supporters (even if they are not a majority of the population) want to hear.
Nor is it JFK’s Democratic Party anymore. It’s worse now, but if the Republican Party has changed with Trump it has moved more to the center, because a lot of what Trump pushes is definitely nor far right, like some leftists think.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:33 PM
 
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Labeling anybody that disagrees with you as mentally ill is not good mental health
Liberalism used to be a valid political ideology but no more.

A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do.

A social scientist that understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do,” ...

A legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do.”

Liberalism-True-Political-Ideology-or-Mental-Disorder-20131022
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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so you are telling me some liberal on the very liberal Salon.com doesn't like being "pathologized"


really? I am shocked I tell you! Shocked!!


there really is a Trump Derangement Syndrome and the left is suffering terribly.


Otherwise we have to assume rationality when vast numbers of Leftists say stuff like "MS13 are people too"
Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, and it's spectacular.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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You really went low for that one. Kinda like hitting your kid brother and then calling him a whiner if he complains, isn't it?
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Anyone who tries to equate the (hard-core) Lefties' resentments about Trump with conservative angst over Obama is only fooling him/herself; The wailing, complaining and gnashing of teeth over there in Deep Left Field never stops. and I can only attribute this to the fact that the Leftist dream of a permanent Democratic hegemony was set far, far back.

Too bad y'all lost ….. it's time to grow up and play some realpolitik.

And I voted for Johnson, BTW.

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Old 06-02-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Nope. I really am not. I do not like him and I never have.

I do not see any reason to start because he's yet to give me one. I do not see someone blundering around dong stupid stuff as a president being good for the country. He is good for lining his own pockets... it's really very apparent.

You are free to see it differently, of course.

You are not free to continue to tell me I have a mental disorder for seeing what I see in this situation.

In my opinion, he is not qualified to run a PTA meeting, much less a country. And, if you think so, that's on you.

I'm not going to fall in line and that's okay, too.
Not everyone who disagrees with Trump has TDS. It is just a term given to those who exhibit emotional distress at the mere mention of his name. I can see where someone that has control of their emotions would get upset when someone describes them as having TDS because they disagree with a Trump policy. That desn’t, however mean that it is not a valid description for some people who overreact.
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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Not everyone who disagrees with Trump has TDS. It is just a term given to those who exhibit emotional distress at the mere mention of his name. I can see where someone that has control of their emotions would get upset when someone describes them as having TDS because they disagree with a Trump policy. That desn’t, however mean that it is not a valid description for some people who overreact.
LOL, I used to watch Morning Joe but after Trump was elected the over the top and emotionally charged hatred they directed at Trump was disgusting so I took them off my DVR. I checked last week to see their coverage of NK.

Oh well, same script.... a serious case of TDS and people who watch TDS shows like liberal media will catch TDS if they are easily led. But that's the whole point of media pundits emotionally charged TDS isn't it... they want to infect their viewers.... (hateful propaganda)
 
Old 06-02-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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I do have to agree with you on that. Why follow Trump on Twitter? I don't follow him. The only way I know he tweeted something is when it shows up on someone's social media feed or when Twitter suggests that I read it. He's the president and seems to be issuing briefings via tweet, so it's not like I will just ignore it and find out later that he just nuked North Korea.

But, follow him? Nah. I would not give him the satisfaction of an extra follower on Twitter. I know some liberals who follow him and I have told them myself that it's illogical.

I really don't know what Hillary is up to unless someone brings her up in here. Nobody I know on social media spends much time talking about her. I hear more here from her detractors than I do on social media among friends who still like her.

I think liberals, since you asked, follow Trump because he is not stable. There is constant upheaval.

If he didn't fire someone every week or change his mind more often than most folks change their bedsheets, I would imagine that most people would just try to ignore him until he's out of office.
I think if you are a liberal, following Trump on Twitter and you find yourself going bald, you probably do have TDS. You should start wearing a cone like they put on dogs, so you can’t pull your hair out.
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