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Words change meaning all the time. I learned that with the word " thong ".
Society changes and grows, so do definitions.
Extending marriage to same sex couples shouldn't be put up to the will of the people. Human rights are not something that should be up to the majority. Otherwise...you might find yourself without rights, if not by sexuality, but by sex, or ethnicity.
It's not really about the how and why with you though, is it? You just don't like the idea of gay people having equal rights.
Tony Perkins is an incredibly influential character on the religious right. He speaks at many conservative events and is a heavy opponent of LGBTQ rights in all areas (not just marriage) and proponent of conversion therapy. His "Family Research Council" is an offshot of James Dobson's "Focus on the Family."
While I agree that not everyone who voted for Trump is anti-gay, most GOP politicians won't think twice about pandering to their virulently homophobic base.
Dark times are coming in this country for those who aren't white, straight, male, and fundamentalist Christian.
I would venture to say that most Trump voters and Trump himself have little interest in this one way or the other. Sure, there's a small subset of voters that put this at a high priority but not enough to push for changes.
Abortion (AKA killing babies) on the other hand, that has the moral, ethical, and political energy to change the current laws.
It really doesn't except that the effort to normalize homosexuality by extending marriage to same-sex unions uses the Orwellian tactics of the Ministry of Truth to change the meaning of a word, "marriage", by removing the previous meaning of the word.
That this has been done by side-stepping the democratic process and the previously expressed will of the people makes the effort even less acceptable to those of us that still believe that the will of the people reins supreme.
It's not the what.
It's the how and why.
Were you fine with out of state Mormon groups pouring money into California to influence black voters to try to get Proposition 8 passed ? .
Now, now, don't discourage Trump and his supporters. Let them have this ball and run with it. I want to see them truly go to town on this. How long have we had to listen to their whining about abortion and gay marriage? Abortion alone has been a 40 year whining fest.
Now it's either put up or shut up. Either overturn Roe V. Wade and deal with the fallout or shut up and accept it as law and quit crying to Democrats about it.
With Republicans controlling all facets of American government, we should never have to listen to Trump supporters again with regard to abortion and gay marriage.
Tony Perkins is an incredibly influential character on the religious right. He speaks at many conservative events and is a heavy opponent of LGBTQ rights in all areas (not just marriage) and proponent of conversion therapy. His "Family Research Council" is an offshot of James Dobson's "Focus on the Family."
While I agree that not everyone who voted for Trump is anti-gay, most GOP politicians won't think twice about pandering to their virulently homophobic base.
Dark times are coming in this country for those who aren't white, straight, male, and fundamentalist Christian.
"So Republicans don't want to go after gay marriage?"
Do you claim EVERY Dem is just like Maxine water's?
Let's play your silly game of "if 1 repub think a certain way, EVERY repub think the same way it"
Bill Clinton is a proven liar, was found GUILTY of LYING in a court of law, Bill Clinton is a dem, therefore EVERY dem is a LISA!
If marriage was what it was back in the 1800s, I would agree with you, but it is a complex intermingling of taxable assets and it needed to be decided at the federal level.
I guess you could say that each state could have the choice to issue licenses that referred to marriages or civil unions if their religious citizens wanted to get technical about it, but denying the rights of homosexuals to enter unions that have tax, healthcare, and rights of survivors/estates implications is problematic.
You would also have to have states agreeing to recognize marriages from other states (again, due to taxes and financial/estate reasons, as well as guardianship of minor children and the infirm) and then, people who lived in judgmental states that wanted to call them civil unions instead of marriages would see their residents marrying in states that aren't all in everyone's business and returning home to their state that wants to call it a civil union to avoid riling the Bible thumpers and find out that they have to call those marriages marriages anyway.
So, why even mess with it? They are two adults, consenting, entering a partnership based (presumably) on love, attraction, and the mingling of assets... possibly the raising of children.
And, with all the other problems in the world, why try to create new ones over something that is intended to be loving and caring?
It just makes opponents look like hateful people.
"You would also have to have states agreeing to recognize marriages from other states"
Do you mean like some liberal state do NOT recognize another state's Concealed Carry permits?
Many find it odd how the libs talk out of both sides of their mouths.
Tony Perkins is an incredibly influential character on the religious right. He speaks at many conservative events and is a heavy opponent of LGBTQ rights in all areas (not just marriage) and proponent of conversion therapy. His "Family Research Council" is an offshot of James Dobson's "Focus on the Family."
While I agree that not everyone who voted for Trump is anti-gay, most GOP politicians won't think twice about pandering to their virulently homophobic base.
Dark times are coming in this country for those who aren't white, straight, male, and fundamentalist Christian.
Nothing will happen to gay marriage. For the high court to even take it up again a case would have to develop showing that gay marriage is bad for society in which case it is not. Surveys show that a third of Americans are still opposed but that number will continue to decline, rapidly.
In the event it did ever go back to the states, any state that banned it would be considered discriminatory in the eyes of much of Corporate America, Big Sports and Big Entertainment. We saw the wrath of boycotts and threats when NC passed a bathroom bill and Texas tried to. It would be much worse for banning gay marriage.
Being anti gay marriage is not the same thing as being anti-gay or homophobic, and it certainly isn't the realm of only fundamentalist Christians.
Your going to unnecessarily work yourself into a tizzy, and likely do more harm than good, if you hang the acceptance of gays in society on gay marriage.
It is to some degree, though.
If you are opposed to giving gay people the same civil rights (such as marriage) that you enjoy, you are anti-gay.
You are correct that this does not mean a person is homophobic, it just means that they are anti-gay.
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"You would also have to have states agreeing to recognize marriages from other states"
Do you mean like some liberal state do NOT recognize another state's Concealed Carry permits?
Many find it odd how the libs talk out of both sides of their mouths.
I think "libs" is just a lazy way of saying "people who do not agree with me."
And... wait for it...
I think that we should have federal firearms laws, too.
So much for your theory, eh?
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Were you fine with out of state Mormon groups pouring money into California to influence black voters to try to get Proposition 8 passed ? 
