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If the Trumpists and other conservative factions make the mistake of targeting marriage options for all and reproductive freedom, they will be hit with a huge backlash from women voters, from all parts of the political spectrum.
There are a lot of women who vote GOP who are very staunchly anti-abortion. For lots of them it's the main reason they are a Republican. Then you have the hispanic vote. 50% of Hispanics are anti-abortion. I have hispanic friends who hate Trump and the GOP who until I mentioned it did not know the democrats were the pro abortion party. If the GOP made a bigger push to get the word out they would get a lot more Hispanic votes.
I am pro-choice but to these people abortion is murder and they are never going to change that opinion.
I have never met a Republican whose main reason for being a Republican was to stop gay rights.
The ruling was fundamentally flawed and must be overturned. Same with Roe. Both of these issues should be legislated by the states, which is what will happen when they are overturned.
As a gay man, I agree with this. There is certainly no right to gay marriage in our constitution. This MUST be a state by state issue.
Not every Republican is an evangelical christan. About 45% are and 29% of democrats are. By the way some carry on here you would think all GOP are evangelical Christians and all evangelical Christians are GOP.
It really doesn't except that the effort to normalize homosexuality by extending marriage to same-sex unions uses the Orwellian tactics of the Ministry of Truth to change the meaning of a word, "marriage", by removing the previous meaning of the word.
That this has been done by side-stepping the democratic process and the previously expressed will of the people makes the effort even less acceptable to those of us that still believe that the will of the people reins supreme.
It's not the what.
It's the how and why.
Words change meaning all the time. I learned that with the word " thong ".
Society changes and grows, so do definitions.
Extending marriage to same sex couples shouldn't be put up to the will of the people. Human rights are not something that should be up to the majority. Otherwise...you might find yourself without rights, if not by sexuality, but by sex, or ethnicity.
It's not really about the how and why with you though, is it? You just don't like the idea of gay people having equal rights.
I don't think anyone has a problem with civil unions or the sorts of legal arrangements for shared benefits that you mention. So when Obergfell is overturned, you can reasonably expect that these issues to be dealt with in a reasonably agreeable manner.
If no one had a problem with civil unions why were they banned for same sex couples in the majority of the states prior to Obergefell?
As a gay man, I agree with this. There is certainly no right to gay marriage in our constitution. This MUST be a state by state issue.
1.) Rights aren't granted by the Constitution. They already exist.
2.) The right to enter into a contract is a natural right that may not be infringed upon by ANY government, be it federal, state, or local. Government has NO business regulating marriage.
Dark times are coming in this country for those who aren't white, straight, male, and fundamentalist Christian.
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I'll stop caring about gay marriage and Abortions when I start hearing less of Impeach Fodifav, Racist, white male cis-gendereds and awe dee pour cheeldrin!
There are a lot of women who vote GOP who are very staunchly anti-abortion. For lots of them it's the main reason they are a Republican. Then you have the hispanic vote. 50% of Hispanics are anti-abortion. I have hispanic friends who hate Trump and the GOP who until I mentioned it did not know the democrats were the pro abortion party. If the GOP made a bigger push to get the word out they would get a lot more Hispanic votes.
I am pro-choice but to these people abortion is murder and they are never going to change that opinion.
I have never met a Republican whose main reason for being a Republican was to stop gay rights.
This is true about the Hispanic's stance against abortion. I have a good friend who is a Cuban American and gay, but it's his belief that abortion is murder that keeps him voting Republican all of the time.
With that said, I'm not a Republican, but have been voting for them since 2012 just because of the Democrats anti-gun rhetoric. But, I too believe in pro-choice, but I just don't think they should be using tax payer money to fund someone else's poor decisions.
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