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Blacks are outnumbered by Whites 5 to 1. Of course there are going to be fewer Blacks shot by the police. 200 million Whites vs 40 million Blacks. Whites are shot to death by the police at a rate of 0.2285 per 100,000. Blacks are shot to death by the police at a rate of 0.5275 per 100,000. Blacks are killed by the police at a higher rate.
I notice you will use crime rate when it comes to Blacks committing crimes, but you use raw numbers when it comes to stuff like Blacks being victimized.
How about this. Just admit you have disdain for Blacks and leave it at that.
You are right, but when a white person uses this same argument about, lets say welfare, we are given the argument well there are more whites on welfare than blacks, which makes sense because there are more whites, but thats not how blacks look at it, they want to use it as an excuse. Funny how it works that way when you want it to.
The South has not been a region high on handouts. The South was always poorer and further behind than the rest of the USA. Slavery pretty much screwed up the South's development. You had a few wealthy people White people, alot of poor Whites, and then you had the slaves. Slaves were forbidden to know how to read. Poor Whites did not have many resources in terms of getting more educated, and the White elites pretty much looked out for themselves. Poor Whites didn't have to worry about being looked down on for being White. The idea was "I'm poor, but at least I'm not Black".
The south has been on handouts moreso than any other region except maybe Appalachia. That you just mentioned how they are poor, but don't admit that the poor are on handouts is absolutely imbecilic.
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Education in the South has always lagged behind the rest of the country, even after the Civil War. However, education was treated by many leaders as optional. Schools were not widely available for everybody. More schools became available in the 20th century. Now, as poor as many Whites were in the South, Blacks were even poorer, and basically oppressed in the South. White schools were still better equipped than Black schools.
So of course Affirmative Action is needed for the disadvantaged South. Or doesn't it apply for whites?
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And something else. Black unemployment has been higher than White unemployment for years, before any "handouts". epression hit, Blacks, who were already poorer than most other groups, lost their jobs first, especially men.
No not before handouts. You are very uneducated or just don't care about the truth or both. Up until the 1920s when blacks voted republican and didn't get handouts the black UE rate was lower than whites. Once the handouts began black UE rate went higher than whites. That you say otherwise is dishonest.
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One thing did drive black unemployment down: World War II. Blacks were leading the USA in out of wedlock births and single parent households BEFORE "handouts" began.
Poor people were leading the USA in out of wedlock births. Not that you care about the truth or whites.
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In fact, there was a welfare program for indigent mothers. Because of how the program was doled out(the individual states had to dole it out), Black women were often excluded from it. Black women had to go and get jobs as maids and other lowly jobs. Black women were far more likely to be single parents than women of other ethnicities. Black men have historically had a harder time getting jobs than men of any other race. First fired, last hired. Pretty much been the rule for Black men. When the Great Depression hit, Blacks, who were already poorer than most other groups, lost their jobs first, especially men.
If black men historically have a harder time finding jobs, then explain why black UE was lower than white UE until the 1920's? Make something else up.
Who is stopping your from protesting? Get off your ass and do something about it.
If whites don’t feel compelled to protest, then so be it. But that has nothing to do with black people.
NO, blacks tend to protest every time a black person is shot, even though it may be justified. Whites tend to let things work themselves out through the legal system. And another thing, I would say that 99.9% of these shootings, black or white are justified.
The bold statement right there lets me know you know nothing about me. I was taught the value of hard work.
You say you were taught to work hard but don't see how it hurts people who don't? You're a hypocrite or you think blacks need to be treated like children or both. I do know that.
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I grew up in a middle class, two parent home. You know nothing about me. I went to college, got my degree, and still dealt with alot of problems in my life. Your stupid assumptions about me tell me that you are just here to gaslight me.
Ahh your silly buzzword that you don't know how to use properly.
Explain why you were taught one way yet promote the opposite? answer - Because you weren't taught correctly.
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It tells me that you probably have a bigoted mindset and hide it with statement that show a lack of empathy on your part.
Because of your twisted agenda that doesn't include the truth. All you care about is blacks this and blacks that. You don't care about the individual unless that person is black.
Why help poor whites who are in the same position. The position that single parenthood brings. Screw whitey? Right?
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I also know the experiences I've dealt with and seen with my own eyes. Just because you don't want to believe me doesn't mean they didn't happen.
Your laughable single data point is just that. ONE example and not the norm. Keep trying to pull this garbage and I'll continue to shut you down with the truth.
NO, blacks tend to protest every time a black person is shot, even though it may be justified. Whites tend to let things work themselves out through the legal system. And another thing, I would say that 99.9% of these shootings, black or white are justified.
Dunno about that high a precentage but the problem comes about when the bad ones aren't held responsible. That is where the frustration lies. Not saying you're saying one way or the other.
America is upwardly mobile. When people rely on handouts, that's not being upwardly mobile. When the party of the klan bought the poor with handouts starting with FDR, is it any wonder that black unemployment became higher than white unemployment.
Then why are there poor whites, especially in the south? Is that racism too or do you have another explanation?
Come on now.....you are experiencing intellectual constipation ONLY because your mental diet excludes the fiber of truth via selection bias. This is not hard to figure out once one divorces themselves from their emotions and biases.
Take a deep breath in for about 4 seconds.....hold it for 4 seconds and slowly exhale for 8 seconds. Repeat these steps until you are relaxed. Then imagine that you are not white or conservative....but just looking at a situation without bias or prejudice. Take in all the facts of history, process the information, then return a conclusion.
If that does not help you answer your own questions....we can prescribe meds.
Racism is not the only thing that causes poverty. One can have a headache and another person can have a headache and both can have a totally different source causing their headache. There are many roads that lead to the "Rome" of poverty. Your question seems to imply there is only one road.
Why should this come as a surprise? Whites far outnumber other groups in the US so it is to be expected. The rate (compared to their population numbers) that whites are killed by police however is far less than some other groups.
You say you were taught to work hard but don't see how it hurts people who don't? You're a hypocrite or you think blacks need to be treated like children or both. I do know that.
Since when have I said Blacks needed to be treated like children? I'm the hypocrite? I've never once said "don't work hard". I've championed having fathers in the home and how fathers are needed. I also understand that Black men have had it harder than anyone else in this country besides Native Americans. Understanding those realities doesn't make me a hypocrite.
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Ahh your silly buzzword that you don't know how to use properly.
Explain why you were taught one way yet promote the opposite? answer - Because you weren't taught correctly.
I know what I'm talking about. You are the one with the problem. You are the one trying to make me doubt me own reality. If you have nothing better to offer than that, don't respond to any of my posts and get out of here.
And prove to me that I haven't promoted the value of hard work. In fact, if I didn't know the value of hard work, explain this. I got laid off from a really good-paying job. After my UI ran out, I had to take a job far below my education and skill qualifications. I was working at night at a poorly paying job, dealing with toxic work environment. I worked my butt off at that job. I know what hard work is. Don't you dare come here and try to get me to question what I go through.
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Because of your twisted agenda that doesn't include the truth. All you care about is blacks this and blacks that. You don't care about the individual unless that person is black.
Why help poor whites who are in the same position. The position that single parenthood brings. Screw whitey? Right?
And all you care about is White people. You don't even care about individuals either. What you're basically saying is that because I understand what I have to go through as a Black man, I somehow have twisted logic. You prove my point about you gaslighting me. You're trying to make me question my own reality. Like I said before, you can get out of here with that stupidity.
And I've talked about poor Whites in previous threads and the struggles they go through. Or do you only use this time to complain about me.
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Your laughable single data point is just that. ONE example and not the norm. Keep trying to pull this garbage and I'll continue to shut you down with the truth.
I have more examples, and more things from other people who have had to deal with things like racial profiling. Don't believe me? I don't care.
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