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Old 07-21-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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LOL, getting back to the original post ,it's false .The new min wage is not affecting restaurants that were not in trouble before it went into effect. Meaning if you can't run a small business it's you not the wage.
It is easy for people here to assume that minimum wage doesn't have an impact on the restaurant or other businesses. Most of the "keyboard warriors" likely have never had any direct experience in building or owning a business.....yet they are quick to spout off as though they know what they are talking about. In reality some restaurants would be impacted and others not so much. A higher end restaurant where a meal is over $100 likely does not employ many minimum wage workers. On the other hand, the labor at a lower end restaurant may be comprised primarily of minimum wage workers. The demand for a restaurants services are somewhat elastic....you don't have to go! If the price for a hamburger is $7.50 is the same crowd that frequents the restaurant willing to pay $9.00? Maybe, maybe not.....has nothing to do with an owners ability to run a small business it has to do with costs. Restaurants are notoriously difficult to operate and have an extremely high failure rate under the best of circumstances....most are on the edge of "trouble." Increasing the cost of labor can push them over the edge.
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Old 07-21-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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I 100% agree with you. The problem is human beings dont just go plug their brains into a docking station to gain said skills in a couple hour upload time. It can take YEARS, in the mean time alot of people are either homeless or pseudo homeless during this time due to the fact that they are trying to juggle keeping their time to gain said skills and eat.

THE PROBLEM is the proliferation of the hatred and subsequent creation of draconian laws against the homeless by the affluent. You can see the vitriol just in these forums towards the homeless in cali and other states. It is not empathy, they want these people dead or gone.

Police harras people who sleep in pop up campers or their cars etc in public lands etc. The GOP craft all this legal frame work and make it so that unless your are a land owner your pretty much screwed and even then local ordances get passed where even if you own the land you cant just pull up a camper or a trailer and live in it unless you can show your building a perment structure .... I could go on and on.

THAT is what this boils down to.
Please discuss this issue with their parents.
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Old 07-21-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Not true,as much as you want it to be ,it's not "price fixing".
You are right. It’s not price fixing. It’s extortion.

Nobody should be forced at gunpoint to pay for anything at an above fair market rate, but that’s what minimum wage law is.
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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It is easy for people here to assume that minimum wage doesn't have an impact on the restaurant or other businesses. Most of the "keyboard warriors" likely have never had any direct experience in building or owning a business.....yet they are quick to spout off as though they know what they are talking about. In reality some restaurants would be impacted and others not so much. A higher end restaurant where a meal is over $100 likely does not employ many minimum wage workers. On the other hand, the labor at a lower end restaurant may be comprised primarily of minimum wage workers. The demand for a restaurants services are somewhat elastic....you don't have to go! If the price for a hamburger is $7.50 is the same crowd that frequents the restaurant willing to pay $9.00? Maybe, maybe not.....has nothing to do with an owners ability to run a small business it has to do with costs. Restaurants are notoriously difficult to operate and have an extremely high failure rate under the best of circumstances....most are on the edge of "trouble." Increasing the cost of labor can push them over the edge.
Regardless of the impact, the minimum wage law is nothing but to force business owners and other consumers at gunpoint to pay above fair market rate.

That is not moral, fair or just.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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Many people predicted this but of course the Left/Democrats will never learn. Watch them try to blame something else or enact another bound-to-fail law to try to fix their failed law. It will be a never ending vicious cycle with them. Now these workers will have no job at all. Leftist excuses in 3...2...1

The $15 Minimum Wage Is Wreaking Havoc On NYC Dining
So people shouldn't be paid a living wage?
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So people shouldn't be paid a living wage?
They ARE paid a living wage. They just need to adjust their lifestyle to match their income. NO ONE is entitled to a certain standard of living.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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So people shouldn't be paid a living wage?
No, they shouldn't be paid ANY wage that isn't freely and voluntarily negotiated without State interference.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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Not true,as much as you want it to be ,it's not "price fixing".
Don't be dumb on purpose. Establishing a minimum wage is the definition of price fixing. The State should not be setting any aspect of any price. If I am willing to pay $10/hr, and you are willing to work for $10/hr and the state says it has to be $15/hr, the price is FIXED BY THE DAMNED STATE at a price higher than the market. It is coercive price fixing backed by violent police power of the state, the power to compel, the power to imprison, the power to destroy.


If you don't pay this person at a price I say is correct, I will destroy you.


That's what the minimum wage is.


That has no place in a free country. It's immoral and anti-human.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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So people shouldn't be paid a living wage?
Only if done voluntarily.

Forcing people at gunpoint to pay your living wage is slavery by definition.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Roosevelt was arguably the worst president that ever lived. And we are still paying for the collectivistic cancer he dutifully injected into the body politic.

Nonetheless, the minimum wage should be repealed. It is an economic abomination and survives only through the lack of philosophical and economic education of the American citizenry. A citizenry indoctrinated into Rooseveltian collectivism through the public school system that lauds their statist Gods. And just another argument for abolition of public schools.
After reading your responses to myself and others, I think that the casual reader would regard your views as extremist. Would you care to reveal the sources of your indoctrination?
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