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We know your ilk. It's breeds the same "virtue" that champions child labor, sex trafficking, indentured servitude bc both parties "agreed"
Oh you know my ilk? Here's my ilk, then we'll go over yours again.
1) Not a problem. A minor child cannot give informed consent to a contract. Therefore, no child labor problem.
2) Sex trafficking: Not a problem. In a free society, nobody gets trafficked unless they want to get trafficked and are of the age of consent. So yes, prostitution is totally legal under my system.
3) Indentured servitude: Not a problem. Doesn't exist. Free adults of consenting age can structure an employment contract any damned way they wish. It's called freedom. Nobody's business but their own.
Now back to your system: The centerpiece being that it is morally right to steal the assets of an individual, against his will, for the unearned and undeserved benefit of others. That's your progressive idea of "compassion". You are a champion of hatred. Hatred of virtuous people who earn their money. Envy of people who are better than you. Destruction and enslavement of those people using the monopoly on violence granted only to the State in the form of the police power, and then using that power to enslave people, take their private property, and give it away to whomever your panel of vicious mediocre bureaucratic experts decides has a need.
The $15 minimum wage is an illegal taking, it is theft on a grand scale, it is coercion, compulsion, and enslavement. It is moral insanity, economic suicide, and a cowardly way for the weak to tyrannize the strong.
It is justified based on collectivistic adaptations of retarded philosophies such as utilitarianism and consequentialism. But of course, similar to all the other redistributive Ponzi schemes, it MUST fail. Restaurants must raise prices to unreasonable levels, diners stay home or do what I do: dine OUTSIDE the city. Restaurants close. Idiot workers who demanded the immoral minimum wage are now unemployed. Robots become more economically feasible, and jobs are eliminated. People dreaming of opening a restaurant do a cost benefit and trash that dream, at least in areas where the confiscatory coercive minimum wage is declared economic martial law. The unjust high wages fuel inflation, raising prices for everything until the $15/hr buys the same goods and services $8 used to.
So even if it did accomplish anything, it would still be immoral theft. But in the end, it ALSO does not accomplish anything except permanently eliminating jobs and dampening business ventures. It is LOSE-LOSE-LOSE.
So it is unethical, immoral, and serves no purpose. Great, let's pass it so the idiot workers will also be the idiot voters who keep us in power.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, was always the cynical purpose of the minimum wage. To buy votes from stupid people.
Get roommates. Those earning low wages shouldn't even have a car. Maintenance/insurance/etc. is an expense they cannot afford. Use an alternate means of transportation. The only one making excuses is you and your ilk.
Many people do have roommates but they are still poor because in many places even with roommates rent is still expensive. If you do not live in a city there is usually no transportation. I live in a small city and you have to have a car to go anywhere.
Many people do have roommates but they are still poor because in many places even with roommates rent is still expensive. If you do not live in a city there is usually no transportation. I live in a small city and you have to have a car to go anywhere.
We know your ilk. It's breeds the same "virtue" that champions child labor, sex trafficking, indentured servitude bc both parties "agreed"
Indentured servitude? Right, those who are forced at gunpoint by those, who pay virtually no taxes but receive virtually all the benefits, to pay almost all the taxes but receive virtually no benefits.
Huh? How about if a person cannot live on a job that pays less than the $15 min wage that person shouldn’t take that job.
Yes, and then when that person doesn't take that job then people like you call that person a bum for being unemployed and claim that he/she is expecting to be paid more than what he/she is worth.
Oh you know my ilk? Here's my ilk, then we'll go over yours again.
1) Not a problem. A minor child cannot give informed consent to a contract. Therefore, no child labor problem.
2) Sex trafficking: Not a problem. In a free society, nobody gets trafficked unless they want to get trafficked and are of the age of consent. So yes, prostitution is totally legal under my system.
3) Indentured servitude: Not a problem. Doesn't exist. Free adults of consenting age can structure an employment contract any damned way they wish. It's called freedom. Nobody's business but their own.
Now back to your system: The centerpiece being that it is morally right to steal the assets of an individual, against his will, for the unearned and undeserved benefit of others. That's your progressive idea of "compassion". You are a champion of hatred. Hatred of virtuous people who earn their money. Envy of people who are better than you. Destruction and enslavement of those people using the monopoly on violence granted only to the State in the form of the police power, and then using that power to enslave people, take their private property, and give it away to whomever your panel of vicious mediocre bureaucratic experts decides has a need.
The $15 minimum wage is an illegal taking, it is theft on a grand scale, it is coercion, compulsion, and enslavement. It is moral insanity, economic suicide, and a cowardly way for the weak to tyrannize the strong.
It is justified based on collectivistic adaptations of retarded philosophies such as utilitarianism and consequentialism. But of course, similar to all the other redistributive Ponzi schemes, it MUST fail. Restaurants must raise prices to unreasonable levels, diners stay home or do what I do: dine OUTSIDE the city. Restaurants close. Idiot workers who demanded the immoral minimum wage are now unemployed. Robots become more economically feasible, and jobs are eliminated. People dreaming of opening a restaurant do a cost benefit and trash that dream, at least in areas where the confiscatory coercive minimum wage is declared economic martial law. The unjust high wages fuel inflation, raising prices for everything until the $15/hr buys the same goods and services $8 used to.
So even if it did accomplish anything, it would still be immoral theft. But in the end, it ALSO does not accomplish anything except permanently eliminating jobs and dampening business ventures. It is LOSE-LOSE-LOSE.
So it is unethical, immoral, and serves no purpose. Great, let's pass it so the idiot workers will also be the idiot voters who keep us in power.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, was always the cynical purpose of the minimum wage. To buy votes from stupid people.
You mean like "to big to fail, bail outs", sub prime mortgages, near zero interest rates (which drive up the costs of everything because now people can bid with the banks money, this also extends to credit cards)
In reality the issue is not the minimum wage but the grossly over inflated costs of key assets, 1.5 million for a beach property in cali .... seriously?
If we had proper trade embargos, immgration and TIGHTLY controled stock market (so tight the SEC carried M4's and invoked brutal beat downs and very public police brutality and shackling of white collar financial crimes.
So I agree with you, people should not be able to steal my hard earned money through vulture rental rates, over inflated costs of single family homes, cars, etc etc.
Yes, and then when that person doesn't take that job then people like you call that person a bum for being unemployed and claim that he/she is expecting to be paid more than what he/she is worth.
Thats how the GOP works, they make these circuitous arguments that always lead with a huge number of people homeless .... and then because they dont want to see the dirty homeless bums from their million dollar condos they start trying to buy political favors to start making things that the homeless have to do illegal (like sleeping outside or "loitering", etc). The end game is the GOP want death camps, they will absolutly never say this but thats where the logic leads.
Unless you work like a slave to serve them for peanuts they want you dead. And the masses keep voting for it. The elites even carved it into stone for all to see their plan in the Georgia guide stones. The GOP is satanic.
Dont touch my stuff that I put on a suit and shook some hands for and everyone greased each other palms, thats confiscatory lol.
Yes some people busted their you know what to work and carve out a buisenss but MANY did not, they inherited it or weasled their way around.
Unless you work like a slave to serve them for peanuts they want you dead.
"Working like a slave for peanuts" is a choice. If that choice doesn't meet one's needs, one can improve their skills to make their labor more valuable to employers. Interestingly, those from both sides of the political aisle do exactly so.
"Working like a slave for peanuts" is a choice. If that choice doesn't meet one's needs, one can improve their skills to make their labor more valuable to employers. Interestingly, those from both sides of the political aisle do exactly so.
I 100% agree with you. The problem is human beings dont just go plug their brains into a docking station to gain said skills in a couple hour upload time. It can take YEARS, in the mean time alot of people are either homeless or pseudo homeless during this time due to the fact that they are trying to juggle keeping their time to gain said skills and eat.
THE PROBLEM is the proliferation of the hatred and subsequent creation of draconian laws against the homeless by the affluent. You can see the vitriol just in these forums towards the homeless in cali and other states. It is not empathy, they want these people dead or gone.
Police harras people who sleep in pop up campers or their cars etc in public lands etc. The GOP craft all this legal frame work and make it so that unless your are a land owner your pretty much screwed and even then local ordances get passed where even if you own the land you cant just pull up a camper or a trailer and live in it unless you can show your building a perment structure .... I could go on and on.
I'm more important than the attorney in a real estate transaction. And it isn't close. The payment to each profession is an accurate measure of the value of each. And I do take less than 6% on many occasions. Sometimes I'll even do 4%. If my client is very intelligent and will not need a lot of hand holding, I can reduce what I charge. A first time homebuyer is going to need more help, so I don't discount too much in that situation. Unless I really like them! On a listing, I can also go lower if the price of the home is high enough to cover my costs and profit at the lower rate. In fact, now that I think of it, I can't remember the last time I charged as high as 6%!
Marc, Florida doesn't use attorney's. Some of the builders take advantage of that with shoddy workmanship. You talk about hand holding. How do you know how much hand holding a seller is going to need going in? I've bought and sold enough houses to know that I want to know the broker's commission up front. As far as first time buyers are concerned don't you usually charge the sellers or are you a buyer's agent?
You talk to everyone like they are idiots. You are a salesman saying everything that comes into your mind just like the guy you voted for two years ago.
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