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Old 01-15-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
No, he is asking absurd questions, comparing paying income tax to armed robbery, which is not true in the slightest. I don't take people like that seriously



Are you incapable of working and earning your own money? If so, there are already State and federal programs that provide healthcare. They are called Medicare and (State) Medicaid.



If you ARE capable of working and earning your own money, then BY WHAT RIGHT do you demand a portion of what I earn in order to pay for healthcare when I have to pay for my healthcare as well as the healthcare of my family?


BY WHAT RIGHT do you demand a portion of what I earn to pay for your wants? Should I also be a slave, forced to work, earn then turn over a portion of my earnings so you can live in a nice house? After all... it isn't FAIR that I earn enough money to buy a nice house so you want a 5 bedroom, 8 bath home on 5 acres. You'll also need a Ventrac 4500 series tractor with all the attachments in order to maintain that acreage. While we're at it... since you WANT this house and it's in the country, you also want a car because public transportation all across rural areas simply isn't feasible.


For years and years people have gone without healthcare insurance, even when they had catastrophic events. They paid for what they could afford. Some died and some survived.





Should I be required to pay for your healthcare if you decide to jump out of an airplane and your parachute doesn't open? Should I be required to pay for your healthcare if you decide to ride a dirt bike and get seriously injured? Should I be required to pay for your healthcare if you decide to eat far more than you should because you aren't burning the calories you consume and therefore become overweight, diabetic and have heart disease? Should I be required to pay for your healthcare if you decide to smoke and get cancer? Should I be required to pay for your healthcare if you decide to ignore all the studies that say you should protect your skin from overexposure to the sun and you get skin cancer?

BY WHAT RIGHT do you make such demands of me and my earnings especially when I must pay for the same service if I want it for me and my family?




BY WHAT RIGHT do you seek to STEAL my earnings to pay for your wants?

 
Old 01-15-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
What the hell are you talking about? Is this that stupid "taxes are theft" argument again?
I understood it. It was very well put and to the point.
Did you miss something we need to explain better?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You're talking absurdities^
I thought it was on point and had little to counter.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I thought it was on point and had little to counter.
Read my lips: Income tax is not theft
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Absolutely false. That's a figment of your (and quite a few others', so it seems) imagination.
Well you can believe whatever you want but if you exercise one of your "rights" you believe you have and the government differs with you on that point, you will be invited to pay the penalty. Lots of people have said that the IRS does not have the right to tax them, and they're all in jail. So call it what you want, but in the end the only rights we really have are what the government grants us, and since our government is duly elected by us, those rights are really coming to you from your fellow citizens.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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Read my lips: Income tax is not theft
Does taking without permission become something else if the robber has an IRS badge?
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Does taking without permission become something else if the robber has an IRS badge?
IRS Agents only come after tax dodgers, who are knowingly breaking the law, like Wesley Snipes and the late Irwin Schiff lol
 
Old 01-15-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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IRS Agents only come after tax dodgers, who are knowingly breaking the law, like Wesley Snipes and the late Irwin Schiff lol
answer the question
 
Old 01-15-2019, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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answer the question
I'm not answering your question, because it's stupid and you know it. You're trying to set a logical trap which I'm not dumb enough to fall into; where I would dignify your statement that taxes are armed robbery; but I'm not taking the bait
 
Old 01-15-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I'm not answering your question, because it's stupid and you know it. You're trying to set a logical trap which I'm not dumb enough to fall into; where I would dignify your statement that taxes are armed robbery; but I'm not taking the bait
Translation: I can’t fight back and will resort, as I often must, to an ad hominem reply.
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