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Old 08-07-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Are you incapable of reading post 49? (...seemingly so.) When I posted my image the OP’s initial post containing the wrong manifest, had not been changed.
ffs, one hour ago you claimed the original post was not the El Paso manifesto. Not “when you posted your image”. One hour ago you lied. Flat. Out. Are you incapable of following clear statements? (......seemingly so.)

 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Logical consistency is tough to defeat. No shame in not trying, especially considering the position of inconsistency you operate from.
It’s not worth my time; there’s no convincing you people.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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OP, that’s not the EL Paso manifesto.

Here’s the first page of the manifesto, with clear documentation of where the killer obtained his ramblings from, aka right-wing media.

He’s clearly alt-right; and all you alt-righters gaslighting that he’s a progressive can go Fork themselves.



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That's the silliest thing ever. How dishonest can you get? He didn't repeat anything the people you quoted said. He did talk about some of the same ideas, but they're common political talking points. And none of them come from "right-wing media". They come from the facts on the ground.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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It’s not worth my time; there’s no convincing you people.
That's because they're right.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:26 PM
 
Location: AZ
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ffs, one hour ago you claimed the original post was not the El Paso manifesto. Not “when you posted your image”. One hour ago you lied. Flat. Out. Are you incapable of following clear statements? (......seemingly so.)
I posted my image and in the same post claimed he OP had the wrong manifesto, which he did, and even admitted to.

You’re hardly the capable gaslighter that you think you are.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:27 PM
 
Location: AZ
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That's because they're right.
A broken clock is right twice a day.

And a crackhead thinks crack is the bees knees. I see a lot of similarities here.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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Are you incapable of reading post 49? (...seemingly so.) When I posted my image the OP’s initial post containing the wrong manifest, had not been changed.


I think the confusion is, I posted the correct manifesto, but in all my searching had several links to various manifestos in my history. The original link I posted was incorrect, but the manifesto I posted was the correct one. When I tried to get a link for someone who asked for one, I inadvertently copied and pasted the wrong link.

The confusion is my fault and I apologize. I would not intentionally deceive anyone on here. I am not even that party biased. My objection was with the selective parsing by the press and I thought folks would like to see more than the oft quoted lines used by mainstream reporters to bias the public.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The shooter's narrative was the same as Trump's.

Someone else is causing all our troubles, so they must be stopped by force.

Isn't that exactly what Trump threatened to do to all the corporations that quit mining coal in Pennsylvania? Force the corporations to begin mining again to solve the coal miner's problems?

That someone can be a corporation, or can be a Mexican, a Muslim, or anyone. It doesn't matter.

As long as it's some anonymous 'other', they're all targets. One is as good as any other.

And Trump himself didn't start very much of the narrative. It's all been in parts of our society forever.

The urge for killing is always identical. Only the choice of justification differs, and when someone as prominent as Trump provides the justification, his words are as good as any and better than most for the shooters.

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Old 08-07-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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The shooter's narrative was the same as Trump's.
Nope. Trump isn't anti-corporate.
 
Old 08-07-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by subaru5555 View Post
I posted my image and in the same post claimed he OP had the wrong manifesto, which he did, and even admitted to.

You’re hardly the capable gaslighter that you think you are.
Not the wrong manifesto in the OP, it was the wrong link though in post 17. The info I posted from the manifesto was from the correct one, and was never edited. I wish I could change the link posted in #17, but I did repost the correct link for reference after it was pointed out the link was for a different manifesto than I posted.
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