Gay marriage isn't about civil rights (quotes, legal, military, federal)
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Writing the Bible in 1958 A.D? You are aware the Bible was not written in English right? Homosexuality was not even discovered when the Bible was written.
the torah was written in Hebrew and new testament Greek
There are communities nowadays, like orthodox Jews or Hindus where arranged marriages are a norm. Tell them it is not for the kids
Inability to have children was throughout history one of the legitimate reasons to end marriage.
You have no clue, bud.
I guess we should still have slavery then. It's a tradition.
Howest2008, I did not ask for proof that the modern-day Bible says homosexuality is wrong; I'm aware that it does. I pointed out that there is a debate going on as to whether or not what's written in the modern-day Bible is what was written in the original text. Fiyero re-posted the link I gave you just now if you'd like to learn more. (Note: Your denial is not ample counterargument.)
Now there are some statements made by you I did challenge you to prove biblical, which you have not done. Here they are:
BONUS, for extra points: Find "Don't let gays marry, but disregard what I said here about remarriage" somewhere in the Bible.
i can't stop gays from marrying that sound like a job for the SCOTUS and even if they do some justices from the future can over turn the decision of the current SCOTUS pretty much like the case of Slavery in the 1800's.
It's an empty argument to those who misrepresent or just don't understand.
It's the argument that's being used by Ted Olson and David Boies. I think I'll trust their legal knowledge and intellect over some anonymous blabber-mouths on an internet forum.
i can't stop gays from marrying that sound like a job for the SCOTUS and even if they do some justices from the future can over turn the decision of the current SCOTUS pretty much like the case of Slavery in the 1800's.
Nice try. Any time you voice an opinion, you know there's a chance it could have an influence on someone, and someone else through them, and so on and so forth. There's a ripple effect. You (general "you", not you specifically) are entirely responsible for your part in keeping gay rights minimal when you speak against SSM in any way.
the torah was written in Hebrew and new testament Greek
And homosexuality does not exist in either language. Greek did have 2 words for same-sex behavior, however, and yet Paul used neither one of them. Why would Paul, writing in Greek to a Greek audience, not use the words they were familiar with if his intention was to condemn same-sex behavior?
Lot offered to give the men trying to knock down his door his daughters instead of his MALE guest to have sexual intercourse with , but low and behold they preferred the MEN what do you call these type of men(?)
Read Judges 9. It proves men wanting to rape other men aren't automatically gay. Also educate yourself on the psychology of rape. Men raping men has been common throughout all of human history as a means of humiliation, power, and control. It's scientifically proven that most male rapists, even of other men are not gay. Raping women was common place back then. It didn't create any situation of power, or domination, or humiliation. Raping men in a patriarchal society does. Of course, we're not talking about men, it was supposedly "angels".
Even the US military shows this scenario to be true. There over 30,000 sexual assaults reported against men in the US military each year. Almost every single perpetrator identifies as heterosexual. In fact, I don't think there even are enough gays in the military to reach those numbers. So claiming most are gay would be patently false.
As a side note, are you seriously using a story where Lot offered his daughters to be raped as an example of morality?
Read Judges 9. It proves men wanting to rape other men aren't automatically gay. Also educate yourself on the psychology of rape. Men raping men has been common throughout all of human history as a means of humiliation, power, and control. It's scientifically proven that most male rapists, even of other men are not gay. Raping women was common place back then. It didn't create any situation of power, or domination, or humiliation. Raping men in a patriarchal society does. Of course, we're not talking about men, it was supposedly "angels".
Even the US military shows this scenario to be true. There over 30,000 sexual assaults reported against men in the US military each year. Almost every single perpetrator identifies as heterosexual. In fact, I don't think there even are enough gays in the military to reach those numbers. So claiming most are gay would be patently false.
As a side note, are you seriously using a story where Lot offered his daughters to be rapedas an example of morality?
Read Judges 9. It proves men wanting to rape other men aren't automatically gay. Also educate yourself on the psychology of rape. Men raping men has been common throughout all of human history as a means of humiliation, power, and control. It's scientifically proven that most male rapists, even of other men are not gay. Raping women was common place back then. It didn't create any situation of power, or domination, or humiliation. Raping men in a patriarchal society does. Of course, we're not talking about men, it was supposedly "angels".
Even the US military shows this scenario to be true. There over 30,000 sexual assaults reported against men in the US military each year. Almost every single perpetrator identifies as heterosexual. In fact, I don't think there even are enough gays in the military to reach those numbers. So claiming most are gay would be patently false.
As a side note, are you seriously using a story where Lot offered his daughters to be raped as an example of morality?
men who rape other men in the military and the federal and stae prison system claim to be heterosexual , but in reality they ALL are BI SEXUALS
men who rape other men in the military and the federal and stae prison system claim to be heterosexual , but in reality they ALL are BI SEXUALS
Not really. Most of them do not have any homosexual experiences outside of prison. My dog humps my leg? Homosexual?
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