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Old 04-27-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Questions form those that want to ban pitbulls.
1) What is a pitbull? Is it an APBT that you want banned, or is it any dog that has similar features?
2) Do you think that the problem( viscious attacks) will go away?
3) Do you think that hose street thugs will give up using dogs to compensate, or will they move on to a different breed?
4)Pitbulls are bred to love people, how much worse will it be if these street thugs switch to a breed that is wary of strangers(guardian breeds american bulldogs, cane corsos, dobes and rotweillers as examples)?

 
Old 04-27-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Speaking of...

Here's the numbers again.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf (http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf - broken link)
I don't think there's any way you can argue with those numbers.

Some breeds are inherently more dangerous than others, and there's no denying that Pit Bulls are significantly more dangerous than any other kind of dog. If you look at those numbers, Pit Bulls account for almost 40% of the deaths, and if you add in the Rottweilers, it's up around 60% of all deaths from dog attacks. Pit Bulls also account for over 50% of all attacks.

Maybe it's time we make people get licenses for owning such dangerous dogs. I don't believe in banning them outright, because there are good Rotts & Pits out there, but most owners of those dogs do not raise them properly and it leads to a lot of problems.

My girlfriend's little brother was attacked by a Pit when he was a baby 16 years ago and still carries a massive scar on his face to this day.

The proof that Pit Bulls are simply not as good as other breeds is pretty clear. I see just as many Pugs, Golden Retrievers, Pomeranians, Bulldogs, Boxers and Mastiffs, and they are nowhere near as dangerous as a Pit Bull. People should not be allowed to own a Pit or a Rott unless they've proven themselves to be good handlers of large dogs already.

Pits are cute and fun puppies, but they are vicious killing machines as adult dogs, and it's about time we take responsibility and at least tried to control the insanely large pit population. Too many people buy Pit Bulls as status symbols to seem tougher...and then allow their dogs to be their master and it's very dangerous.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Questions form those that want to ban pitbulls.
1) What is a pitbull? Is it an APBT that you want banned, or is it any dog that has similar features?
2) Do you think that the problem( viscious attacks) will go away?
3) Do you think that hose street thugs will give up using dogs to compensate, or will they move on to a different breed?
4)Pitbulls are bred to love people, how much worse will it be if these street thugs switch to a breed that is wary of strangers(guardian breeds american bulldogs, cane corsos, dobes and rotweillers as examples)?
Based on the numbers, anything other than a Rottweiler will be significantly safer to society. Dobermans are incredibly safe considering how dangerous they can look. I'd much rather see thugs walking a happy English Bulldog down the street than some blood-thirsty Pit looking to take a chomp out of my Pug.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Based on the numbers, anything other than a Rottweiler will be significantly safer to society. Dobermans are incredibly safe considering how dangerous they can look. I'd much rather see thugs walking a happy English Bulldog down the street than some blood-thirsty Pit looking to take a chomp out of my Pug.
Lets start with my first question. What do you consider a pitbull?
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Lets start with my first question. What do you consider a pitbull?
A dog that is classified as a pit bull. Based on that list, I would assume most were full-pit bulls or close enough to full that they weren't called "Pit Bull Mix". Seems pretty simple to me.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Based on the numbers, anything other than a Rottweiler will be significantly safer to society. Dobermans are incredibly safe considering how dangerous they can look. I'd much rather see thugs walking a happy English Bulldog down the street than some blood-thirsty Pit looking to take a chomp out of my Pug.

My moms 4 pugs beat up my pit bull all the time... blood thirsty?? sheesh. You do realize that you could train an english bulldog to fight, right? Hell, I've been attacked by a yorkie that left a nice size scar on my calf.

A thug is a thug and will try whatever they can to make themselves look tough, unfortunately at the detriment of one of my favorite breeds. I'm no thug... in fact I'm a college educated professional that as of next week will own two pit bulls. Hate on the breed if you want, just don't try and forcibly take my dogs away from me by enacting legislation against them.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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A dog that is classified as a pit bull. Based on that list, I would assume most were full-pit bulls or close enough to full that they weren't called "Pit Bull Mix". Seems pretty simple to me.

My moms friend has a lab/mastiff cross (mom was purebred lab, dad was purebred mastiff) and it was catagorized as a pit bull with absolutely ZERO pit bull blood in it.... people are mistaken all the time.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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A dog that is classified as a pit bull. Based on that list, I would assume most were full-pit bulls or close enough to full that they weren't called "Pit Bull Mix". Seems pretty simple to me.
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Pit Bull is a term commonly used to describe several breeds of dog in the Molosser family. The breeds most often placed in this category are the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
In the media the term is vague and may include other breeds with similar physical characteristics, such as the Perro de Presa Canario, Cane Corso, Dogo Argentino, Alano Espanol, Japanese Tosa, Dogue de Bordeaux, Cordoba Fighting Dog, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, American Bulldog, Boxer, Valley Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, Renascence Bulldogge, and Banter Bulldogge. These breeds are rarely listed by name in breed-specific legislation, but they are sometimes included when the term is defined broadly and based on physical appearance.[1]
Do you think the numbers may be just a bit skewed when atleast this number of breeds are lumped in as pitbulls?Many of the bites reported as pit bull weren't even from pitbulls.There is a lot of mistake in identity..
Punish the Deed, not the Breed!
Pit Bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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What car is involved in the most wrecks? Should we get rid of those?
What kind of people commit the most crimes? Should we get rid of them?
What kind of plane is involved in the most crashes? Should we get rid of them?
And on and on and on and on it goes.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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My moms friend has a lab/mastiff cross (mom was purebred lab, dad was purebred mastiff) and it was catagorized as a pit bull with absolutely ZERO pit bull blood in it.... people are mistaken all the time.
That was the point of my first question.I remember a few years ago there was a person mauled by a pitbull (to death)..It turned out the dog was a black lab.
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