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highdesertnutz, I'm not even a conservative. I was just of the opinion that you were being irrational in a lot of your statements, and I expressed my observations.
I have been trying to find the post where I called you a conservative.
Please don't paraphrase me again, you're taking my words out of context.
I've seen your posts on other threads, and you are highly opinionated, but usually never correct. You apparently assume way too much.
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LOL! Did he just call you a conservative? My goodness! The simple act of offering a different point of view to someone who is clearly a liberal partisan gets you branded a conservative. Sheesh!
You've actually contradicted yourself w/this post. If liberals couldn't stand up for what they believe in, then why do you see so many posts that annoy you? Has anyone here run away from you? I can say that I for one would never run away from what I believe in. So, bring it on if that's the case.
He always does that, and when backed into the corner, he goes to another thread, we know him well.
The "dog eat dog" and "every man for himself" world that you envision as ideal is not one in which I would want to live. We really are all connected to each other. We're not islands.
So when do you think a person should take sole responsibility for their actions? Never?
It seem the world you want to to live in is one where no one is ever held responsible for their actions, a world where no matter how screwed up they make their life, they know that everyone else is forced to pay to cover their rear ends. Why bother to get a job, if all you have to do is walk out to the mailbox and say "Hello check," and lay back down on the couch and finish off another a fifth of scotch, and wait for the next check. Why bother to take care of your children, if some welfare case worker will do it for you?
So when do you think a person should take sole responsibility for their actions? Never?
It seem the world you want to to live in is one where no one is ever held responsible for their actions, a world where no matter how screwed up they make their life, they know that everyone else is forced to pay to cover their rear ends. Why bother to get a job, if all you have to do is walk out to the mailbox and say "Hello check," and lay back down on the couch and finish off another a fifth of scotch, and wait for the next check. Why bother to take care of your children, if some welfare case worker will do it for you?
I'm done with your garbage. You see everything in extremes. I never said any of those things. It doesn't matter how much I explain myself to you, you continue to respond with the same stuff. You clearly don't understand that the world isn't black and white.
So when do you think a person should take sole responsibility for their actions? Never?
It seem the world you want to to live in is one where no one is ever held responsible for their actions, a world where no matter how screwed up they make their life, they know that everyone else is forced to pay to cover their rear ends. Why bother to get a job, if all you have to do is walk out to the mailbox and say "Hello check," and lay back down on the couch and finish off another a fifth of scotch, and wait for the next check. Why bother to take care of your children, if some welfare case worker will do it for you?
I'm curious, Wapasha. What's your solution - NO more welfare at all?
I believe it should be limited, but your view seems far too extreme.
And one last thing - one of the main points of funding contraceptives is to save money on welfare later on down the road when unintended children would otherwise be more likely to be born.
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I'm done with your garbage. You see everything in extremes. I never said any of those things. It doesn't matter how much I explain myself to you, you continue to respond with the same stuff. You clearly don't understand that the world isn't black and white.
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I see everything in extremes? You never said "those things"?? You compared my not wanting to pay for a person's condoms or birth control pills, as me wanting to live in a "dog eat dog" world, with "every man for himself". So, I asked you when do you think a person should take responsibility for their actions, because it seemed you were speaking in hyperbole.
Then you end this last post with me some how seeing everything in black and white. Do you want to have a discussion, or do you just want to stand on your soap box?
I'm curious, Wapasha. What's your solution - NO more welfare at all?
I believe it should be limited, but your view seems far too extreme.
And one last thing - one of the main points of funding contraceptives is to save money on welfare later down the road when unintended children would otherwise be more likely to be born.
Of course not, we should take care of people that truly need help, but their has to be a limit to it. People have to live with their decisions at some point.
If someone runs into catastrophic times, and is truly in need, then by all means, take advantage of our social welfare assistance programs, that is what they are there for.
If a person has the money and can pay for their own birth control, or abortion, why should I have to pay into it for them?
These social programs keep expanding, and that does not even count the abuse, and they are costing us an arm and a leg. We used to just have Medicaid for the poor, noble cause, we need to take care of the truly poor. Now we have SCHIP for families making as much as $82,600 per year, when does it end? Why should I have to pay for some family's health care that has a bigger income then I do?
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