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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
The OP seems to forget that it is the Liberals, not the conservatives who claim to be the party of tolerance. Conservatives tend to SEEM more intolerant because they stand up for what they believe in. Liberals dont. They tend to quickly run away when confronted.
Exactly! What many liberals deem as "intolerant" is just standing up for my beliefs and convictions. My views may not be PC but they are rooted in a worldview that I hold dear.
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by Nomander
tolerance is to accept the behavior to which you disagree. This is fine on cultural issues, and subjective topics and behaviors. It is not possible on moral issues. Those who are tolerant of acts that are in conflict with their moral position are the true hypocrites.
If rape is acceptable in one culture and applicable under a certain set of rules and guidelines, being tolerant of this action would be to be permissive of the behavior and accepting of it. You don't have to "agree" with it, but then whether you agree or not is irrelevant if your tolerance of it allows it to continue its behavior. In essence, it becomes lack of action to stop it is essentially condoning its action.
Now how many would be tolerant of a culture that allows rape under their own conditions? I don't think many would "accept" it at all. This is the fallacy of "moral relativity" which is really where the concept of "tolerance" falls flat on its face. Cultural relativity is a sound concept as it deals with the subjective aspects of "tolerance" and acceptance. Be it the clothing people wear, the foods they eat, etc...
Moral conflicts can not be relative. A society can not exist in harmony when it has direct conflicts in moral areas. As with my example, rape would be outlawed and tolerance would not be allowed of the behavior. One moralistic belief would surpass the other forcing submission.
In terms of "abortion", those who disagree with the action believe it to be murder. Tolerating it in any form is to accept it and those who accept it are nothing more than hypocrites of their own belief. If they believe it to be murder, calling those who violate that moral position anything other than a murder is accepting of the practice. Both sides can not live in harmony in this moral dilemma. One must force the other to submit or accept the inevitable demise of that society.
Exactly! What many liberals deem as "intolerant" is just standing up for my beliefs and convictions. My views may not be PC but they are rooted in a worldview that I hold dear.
Well, but as karfar suggested, if conservatives stand up for their beliefs and convictions, then they can't really be that tolerant. That's the essence of conservatism, really. It's much more about right versus wrong, good versus evil, etc. There's less room for nuance or ideas that challenge the established way of doing things.
Your posts indicated that you, as a woman, feel victimized by men. What I meant is that I think you, possibly subconsciously, exaggerate it and actually want it so you can play the victim role.
It's ironic because it shows you actually feel women are not equal. If so, you wouldn't have felt the need to make those statements about men.
Your posts indicated that you, as a woman, feel victimized by men. What I meant is that I think you, possibly subconsciously, exaggerate it and actually want it so you can play the victim role.
It's ironic because it shows you actually feel women are not equal. If so, you wouldn't have felt the need to make those statements about men.
I DMed you.
I actually want to talk to you about a couple of other things too.
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