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Where the hell did I say I wanted you to pay for everything?
Because I know where this is going. Liberals are not tolerant of other people's views, they want other people to pay thru the nose to support, and subsidize their views, and they use the power of government to do it.
The point is, conservatives are tolerant, we do not care what you do, just do not come back and force open our wallets.
You don't agree? Then tell me you do not want government to sponsor and endorse gay marriage, global warming, abortion, pay for contraception, assist people who engage in destructive lifestyles and fund health care for all Americans. I may have left a few out, so ad lib if you must.
Why should I have to pay for condoms, or "the pill" just so some person can have guilt free sex? Buy your own damn condom or pills or condom, or IUD, or porno movie, or whatever floats your boat!!
Because my problem is not with people having sex. My problem is with the fetus' life being terminated.
Paying for the condom or pills or IUD (and NO, we should NOT pay for people's porn...LOL) will help to prevent the need for an abortion. It will also help save us money in welfare handouts that could be necessary if a young or low-income/single woman were to become pregnant and choose to have the baby.
I don't care if we have to hand out the Pill, condoms, and Plan B like candy. The goal should be to keep unwanted pregnancies to an absolute minimum so that abortions are unnecessary.
Because I know where this is going. Liberals are not tolerant of other people's views, they want other people to pay thru the nose to support, and subsidize their views, and they use the power of government to do it.
The point is, conservatives are tolerant, we do not care what you do, just do not come back and force open our wallets.
You don't agree? Then tell me you do not want government to sponsor and endorse gay marriage, global warming, abortion, pay for contraception, assist people who engage in destructive lifestyles and fund health care for all Americans. I may have left a few out, so ad lib if you must.
Huh?
What is wrong with endorsing gay marriage? If they endorse straight marriage, why not homosexual marriage, intolerant conservative? You guys care way to much what people do.
Huh? Where the hell did I say I want you to pay for my abortions, birth control and etc etc?
And some employers do pay men more. Nothing to do with the job. I remember reading a report about how male professors got paid more than female ones. What about that?
I don't know anything about it, and without a source, it's hard to make much of a comment. If the female professors were equal in experience to the males, then I hope they raised hell over it. One example, however, doesn't establish it to be the rule.
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Nope. Sometimes women dont choose to have babies. They get raped or accidents happen.
There's a difference between getting pregnant and having a baby. I said women are not forced to have babies. That's the law.
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In my eyes, it is sexist to make a woman have a child if she does not want it or if she was raped. They can be forced to have babies.
Your original argument was that women are not treated fairly in the workplace, in part, because they have babies. I then said that women choose to have babies; no one forces them to have a baby. Forcing a woman to have a baby would be illegal, and if that happens, we're talking about a whole different situation.
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And if she does not have babies, people begin to pressure her.
Men are pressured to do things too.
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And if she wanted to have the baby but the employers are not happy about it, should they fire her?
It's illegal to fire a woman for getting pregnant.
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I have seen it happen. It is very unfair to women that they have to suffer and get pregnant if they want children.
It's unfair that women have to get pregnant if they want children? LOL. I hate to break it to you, but that's sort of how nature works. There's always the option of adoption.
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If perfect equality between the sexes is impossible which sex do you think is better?
I don't think either sex is "better". I think women have their strengths and weaknesses, as do men. Depending on the situation, one sex may be able to handle something better than the other sex. Equality doesn't mean that the sexes can do everything equally well.
I have thought about it and come to a conclusion. I think people who make religion (an unproven BELIEF-in my eyes) everything and an extremely important part of who they are are simply weak.
If you are going to base your vote on The Bible or Quran, I might as well base my vote on Sleeping Beauty. They all are just fairy tales after all. People who go that into religion and let it interfere with their life and reality are just weak minded and I feel so sorry for them.
You really want to go down that road, and call every person who believes in a religion, is some how a weak minded fool??? Oh yes, this will carry your debate forward, you are an open minded, non judgmental person,
I never go to church, and I at least respect people's personal and religious views. There are a lot of great, generous and soulful people who are religious by nature.
So much for the tolerant views of liberalism.
"You all think liberals should shut up and just tolerate your beliefs while you have no respect for our beliefs?"
That is the problem with liberals, they require me, to suborn my life, restrict my liberties, curtail my freedoms, and steal my money, in order for them to have their desires on this earth.
Most people would call George W. Bush a conservative, and he did all of the things you just mentioned without batting an eye.
Because my problem is not with people having sex. My problem is with the fetus' life being terminated.
So let them by pills, condoms, or stop having sex, you have no right to pick my pocket to fund their irresponsible behavior.
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Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok
Paying for the condom or pills or IUD (and NO, we should NOT pay for people's porn...LOL) will help to prevent the need for an abortion. It will also help save us money in welfare handouts that could be necessary if a young or low-income/single woman were to become pregnant and choose to have the baby.
I don't care if we have to hand out the Pill, condoms, and Plan B like candy. The goal should be to keep unwanted pregnancies to an absolute minimum so that abortions are unnecessary.
So donate to a charity to provide contraception to them. I'll work on getting my state to prevent abortions after the first trimester,and educating women about what a fetus is, so they treat a fetus as a potential child, and not an inconvenient reminder of a reckless night out on a date.
Why do some conservatives think that liberals should be tolerant of their beliefs but may not be tolerant themselves.
How's that for a simple change to the OP that you made a big deal about? Same issue and same fix. Why do you come after me for doing the same thing you did?
Because I was just barely agreeing with an off-the-cuff remark from afo. All I said was "Yep." I didn't start a thread with a title that asserts a certain group of people ALWAYS does x, y, or z.
What is wrong with endorsing gay marriage? If they endorse straight marriage, why not homosexual marriage, intolerant conservative? You guys care way to much what people do.
Huh? Where the hell did I say I want you to pay for my abortions, birth control and etc etc?
Wrong once again, CONservative.
I have never met a liberal that did not think the government was the solution, and I needed to help pay for the federally funded solution they came up with.
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You don't agree? Then tell me you do not want government to sponsor and endorse gay marriage, global warming, abortion, pay for contraception, assist people who engage in destructive lifestyles and fund health care for all Americans. I may have left a few out, so ad lib if you must.
Unfortunately, women are the ones who are cursed with getting pregnant.
"Cursed"?
If you don't want to get pregnant, don't get pregnant. And if you do get pregnant but don't want the baby, abort it ASAP!
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It's unfair that women have to get pregnant if they want children? LOL. I hate to break it to you, but that's sort of how nature works. There's always the option of adoption.
