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As I'm sure you were able to comprehend from my post, I was not defending Ayers. I was simply pointing out that this persistent effort to link him to our president in some meaningful way is mere propaganda.
You need to look deeper, the 0bama relationship with radicals is far reaching and incestuous.
Bill Ayers and Jeff Jones were both terrorists in the Weather Underground.
Jeff Jones is the director of the New York branch of the Apollo Alliance, which was responsible for writing many parts of 0bama's Stimulus plan.
Van Jones sat on the Steering committee for the Apollo Alliance and is now 0bama's Special Advisor for Green Jobs, at the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
All these radicals are interconnected with each other. Go thru their Wikipedia sites, and look at their affiliations, and you will see that that all interface and interconnect, like I said, its incestuous.
i'm not trying to heap legitimacy on Wikipedia, but it is a starting place.
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That's not true. They just thought they'd be able to siphon them off more quickly.
0bama did not even have a plan where to put the prisoners, and congress is refusing to allow them their late request to build a new GITMO, with a different name, different location, same function.
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You clearly will disagree with Obama no matter what because you see him as something different than your ideology, but you're missing the larger point that European countries realized long ago: angry, young people living in poverty would much rather fight a war against the "White Devil" than be part of a criminal mob.
Many of the terrorist leaders we catch are wealthy and supposedly well educated, doctors, teachers and such.
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By validating them, we give them power. As I'm sure you've noticed, Obama has increased pressure on these groups by wisely redirecting military operations to focus on them rather than oil interests.
I understand your point, but it is sophomoric to think we can humiliate or intimidate them, or reduce their recruitment by referring to them as criminals.
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So, whatever we call it is irrelevant. As Bush admitted in a candid moment, you can't actually win the war on terror. It's always going to be there.
I do not disagree that calling it a war on terror was silly, its like calling it a war on sneak attacks aka Pearl Harbor. But calling terrorist acts "man caused disasters" or the war we are fighting is now an "overseas contingency operation" is doubling down on stupid.
Now I have heard it all. terrorist groups are fighters. They are not cowards? Yes brave men normally hide behind children when they want to fight. Brave men normally recruit special needs children to be suicide bombers. Brave men Normally target unarmed defenceless civilians. I stand educated on what bravery actually means now. Thank you so much.
Looks like a hit a sore spot with you right wingers by calling you guys cowards. Say what you want about the "terrorists" organizations what is undeniable is that they fight for what they believe, no matter how unpopular it is. The Taliban fights, al-Qaeda fights, Hamas fights, Hezbollah fights, you guys just talk a lot of garbage. You're fakes and frauds and the US government knows it.
Why is it that we can go hard after foreign terrorist but ignore the festering sore of DOMESTIC conservative terrorist groups? What are we waiting for? The President to be killed? A Senator to be killed? A building to be blown up (again)?
The FBI and the CIA need to go after these groups and JAIL them for terrorism BEFORE they strike! The Bush doctrine said that "no longer will we sit back and wait for them to attack us". So what the hell are we waiting on? We should be rounding up these people and sending them to detention camps NOW!
Yep- I am suprised that Obama has not rounded up all of us conservatives and put us into forced labor camps. Maybe he is waiting for colder weather and Gitmo to clear out. I am sure that he will get around to it sooner or later. I would prefer Cuba over North Dakota.
Looks like a hit a sore spot with you right wingers by calling you guys cowards. Say what you want about the "terrorists" organizations what is undeniable is that they fight for what they believe, no matter how unpopular it is. The Taliban fights, al-Qaeda fights, Hamas fights, Hezbollah fights, you guys just talk a lot of garbage. You're fakes and frauds and the US government knows it.
it didnt take hitting a sore spot to get you to write this post.folks on CD are pretty smart and educated. so now we know who you are.proud of yourself? im sure many will defend you
Why is it that we can go hard after foreign terrorist but ignore the festering sore of DOMESTIC conservative terrorist groups? What are we waiting for? The President to be killed? A Senator to be killed? A building to be blown up (again)?
The FBI and the CIA need to go after these groups and JAIL them for terrorism BEFORE they strike! The Bush doctrine said that "no longer will we sit back and wait for them to attack us". So what the hell are we waiting on? We should be rounding up these people and sending them to detention camps NOW!
it didnt take hitting a sore spot to get you to write this post.folks on CD are pretty smart and educated. so now we know who you are.proud of yourself? im sure many will defend you
I see you're still talking. That's all you guys can do, that's all you're good for. The US government doesn't fear right wing terrorists because conservatives as a whole are cowards and weaklings as evidenced by many posts on this thread. They get a rush out of bullying and posturing, but that is as far as they'll go.
I see you're still talking. That's all you guys can do, that's all you're good for. The US government doesn't fear right wing terrorists because conservatives as a whole are cowards and weaklings as evidenced by many posts on this thread. They get a rush out of bullying and posturing, but that is as far as they'll go.
what makes you think i am a right wing terrorist? please explain in detail
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