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Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Originally Posted by jasper12
People like this usually have a Mama willing to pay the bills. He will be 45, living withMama, mooching off her.
This is what happens, when you don't let your kids grow up, get a job, and support themselves.
Unless you have a trust fund, or a Mama willing to let you be a perpetual kid, you better grow up.
Nah, the OP's plight is actually pretty common, even if few folks ever admit it. Which accounts for a heckuva lot of middle-aged bureaucrats and soul-less "salarymen" just waiting for retirement (or the grave). Where do you think all those "we've always done it this way", and "go-along-get-along" types come from, anyway? It sure ain't from having too much "passion"!
In the beginning...God created the world. He created Adam and Eve, the first humans, and He placed them in the Garden of Eden, where everything was perfect and they could walk around nekkid and pick food off the trees and do whatever they felt like doing, whenever they felt like doing it. Things were great. There was only ONE rule and that was, "Don't eat the fruit off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil." Well, a snake came along and tempted Eve to eat a piece of that fruit, and BAM - the minute she did, she figured she better get ol' Adam to eat some too, so that at least she wouldn't have broken the rule by herself. So he ate some too, and BAM - suddenly they both noticed that they were nekkid as jaybirds...and they both felt a really unusual sensation - the feeling of guilt.
Well, God came along and called them out on this, and threw them out of the Garden of Eden. He also cursed them both as He locked the gates - He told Eve that from here on out, childbirth was going to be painful to her.
And He told Adam that he was going to have to work for a living.
So there you have it. Blame Adam for your troubles. And then get to work.
I share your sentiment. I want a life that is natural for a human being. I want to grow my own food and live off my own land, build my own home, work on those as needed and when I choose to do so. Watch the sun rise and set, eat apples straight from the tree. I don't really care about these materialistic things that people work so unnecessarily hard to get because they are meaningless in the end. They're merely extra luxuries and not necessities.
Humans lived for 300 thousand years on the land, lavishly, and they lived and died with dignity, not tied to *things*. As far as we have "evolved". The work that was done was actually productive, because we built our own homes from what was around us wherever we happened to be and traveled at will by nature because we're naturally nomadic. We hunted and gathered what was around that the Earth has provided for us to live upon to eat.
Although, if you want to continue to enjoy the luxuries of electricity, plumbing, pre-built housing, paved roads, automobiles, computers, and modern medicine that helps people live to age 100 - although miserably and sicker and without dignity - then you must find something that you're good at, and find someone else who needs your help. You could always be a farmer and live a simple life. You could sell handmade goods in your own business and work when you feel like it on your own time. The world is yours.
They lived like dirty, hungry animals and died violent or disease filled deaths, usually as children. Go for it.
OP, I don't care whether you work or not as long as you are not planning on me and others supporting you. But I don't really know how you plan to eat or have a place to live if you're not going to work. Everyone has to pull their own weight.
To the OP..... are you wearing clothes? Have you ever stopped to think how many people it takes to make a pair of jeans? And how many of them hate doing that type of work? From planting the seeds, tending the crop, harvesting the cotton, weaving, cutting, sewing.... and actually taking the money from your hand because they sold the jeans to you? Without others that probably HATE what they do, you would be without food or clothes or a place to live.
You can sit, naked, under a tree and meditate. Eat the leaves. Not do a thing. Have fun or grow up. No one owes you a thing.
In the original post, Guest says s/he "has a business." If so, why are we worried about this? If the business has an income, then i guess Guest can live off that. Or his parents. Or a spouse (although I don't know too many people who want to sign up in advance to support someone not willing to do even take responsibility for him or herself, let alone be half of a partnership). I think this post, especially the "explain to me why part," is facetious. But if the post IS at all serious, I'd suggest Guest needs some therapy. Or s/he will likely spend the coming decades in a refrigerator box under a bridge, as our government doesn't seem too keen on providing housing, food, utilities, transportation, and clothing to people who don't pull their weight. Most people in the world spend MORE than half their time doing things they don't want to do. Even cloistered religious folks who live on islands or mountaintops.
In the beginning...God created the world. He created Adam and Eve, the first humans, and He placed them in the Garden of Eden, where everything was perfect and they could walk around nekkid and pick food off the trees and do whatever they felt like doing, whenever they felt like doing it. Things were great. There was only ONE rule and that was, "Don't eat the fruit off the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil." Well, a snake came along and tempted Eve to eat a piece of that fruit, and BAM - the minute she did, she figured she better get ol' Adam to eat some too, so that at least she wouldn't have broken the rule by herself. So he ate some too, and BAM - suddenly they both noticed that they were nekkid as jaybirds...and they both felt a really unusual sensation - the feeling of guilt.
Well, God came along and called them out on this, and threw them out of the Garden of Eden. He also cursed them both as He locked the gates - He told Eve that from here on out, childbirth was going to be painful to her.
And He told Adam that he was going to have to work for a living.
So there you have it. Blame Adam for your troubles. And then get to work.
I'm really confused as to why I must give up my time to another in order to be able to eat, live, and clothe myself. I'm on this giant ball with a bunch of other monkeys...and one day I will not be here at all...my time is slowly passing me by, leading me to inevitable nothingness...and you think for one second I'm going to allow any person or any group of people dictate what I must do with my time? It doesn't make sense to me that I have to spend half of my waking life doing something I don't want to do...in a routine...or else I'll be relegated to the streets...hungry, dirty and cold.
Don't get me wrong...I can be a hard worker..but it's on my terms, doing what I want, and getting money because of it has never been the goal. I rather wake up and read...or visit friends and family...or spend time with my wife...or write...or try to solve a problem...or anticipate one...or come to a realization, learn something..or meditate. I even like to think on how to cure cancer, or eradicate homelessness, or eliminate poverty. That's what I like to do, but I like to do those things when and how I want to, and not have them as responsibilities tied to me not eating if I don't.
So explain it to me why I don't get to live the life I want to live.
I've almost killed myself because of this...being told how I must live my life, or else end up homeless, up hungry and cold. I just can't bring myself to not live every second of my life exactly how I want to and when backed into a corner, I've nearly ended it.
I'm 24. Degreed. Have a business. Internship experience. And working experience. So, I'm not lazy. Or maybe I am...
I just don't want to do something I don't want to do for the next 40 years of my life. I mean, I'm dying here...I need to live my life. It's the only chance I'll get to, and someone dare make it so that I can't?
I hate it. I've shown up to work with tears streaming from my face, I hate it so much.
Advice? Other than go to a shrink and swallow a bunch of happy pills? This is no life at all.
I'm in my late 20s. Let me say this - sometimes I hate my job too, but I like to look at it this way - the work that I do is a contribution to society. I am doing something that in some way, shape, or form, even if it's in a small way, is useful. I like the feeling of being useful to someone, a group of people, and/or society as a whole. Feeling useless and feeling like I am NOT contributing anything of value to anyone would make me feel depressed and suicidal. Because it literally means you could die and no one would give a sh*t because nothing you did had any value or worth. You contributed nothing. At the end of the day, that's what work is - doing your part to help make the world go around, and being good enough at it that someone will pay you to do it.
So don't be that way. Obviously, you should strive towards finding work that you enjoy, but even if you have to work jobs you don't want in the meantime - at least make it so that your work is valuable to someone, even in the tiniest way. If you flip burgers at McDonalds, hey you're feeding people. If you're a janitor, you're cleaning up stuff that needs to be cleaned up. It's important, even if people crack jokes about it or make fun of you for doing it.
That's just my two cents.
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