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Old 06-25-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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Julia never said or implied that women are "entitled" to gifts from men

But for those who come here complaining they can't find a woman or keep one, they need look no further than the mirror for the explanation as to why.
Yes, she did. She made it quite clear that she expected men to pay her way. If she did not intend that, she could have phrased it differently.

I think any woman that feels a sense of entitlement because she has a vagina needs to look into a mirror. You should go out with people because you enjoy their company, not because you are looking to get life footed to you.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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I just think the whole message that the women on this thread are spreading is reprehensible. Two people interested in each other should need nothing more than their own shared attraction to have a date with each other. Neither the man nor woman should feel compelled by some arbitrary rule or sense of entitlement to expect or give remuneration for their time. Just as the company you keep should be evenly provided, so should the expenses, unless one party feels the desire to gift the other.

To all the ladies here expecting men to foot their bills, all I can say is get with the 21st century. If you want to be on equal footing with men, act like it instead of being babies.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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No, what makes a woman a prostitute is when she expects for me to pay for her dinner simply because she provides me with her company as I am providing her with mine.
Well if the woman pays then you are a prostitute as well?

I always thought prostitution was money in exchange for sex.

I bet you're single.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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Well if the woman pays then you are a prostitute as well?

I always thought prostitution was money in exchange for sex.

I bet you're single.

Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired, I am afraid. The issue is of entitlement. I do not expect for a person to foot the bill for me; however, many women on this thread do.

And as soon as someone challenges your incredibly daft notion and inegalitarian notion of what a man should do for a woman's company, you resort to claiming they must be single. You are truly repugnant.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Well if the woman pays then you are a prostitute as well?

I always thought prostitution was money in exchange for sex.

I bet you're single.

Since you and I are married to real men, real gentlmen, we have no dog in this fight

Guess I just keep responding to try to help some of these clueless men because it's really sad how current trends are leading to fewer and fewer happy, successful relationships. Equating a woman to a prostitute just because she expects a man who asks her out to actually spend a few bucks on her dinner is just sad. Again, these types of men will be single for a long time with that skewered line of thinking
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Yes, she did. She made it quite clear that she expected men to pay her way. If she did not intend that, she could have phrased it differently.

I think any woman that feels a sense of entitlement because she has a vagina needs to look into a mirror. You should go out with people because you enjoy their company, not because you are looking to get life footed to you.
You're hilarious. I've said that I have asked men out and paid their way so many times I've lost count. You either have me confused with someone else or are tilting at windmills.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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Juju, here's the very first response to the OP, which happened to be from me.

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"The ticket is kind of expensive" = "I want you to pay for your own ticket." If you want to go, pay for your own ticket and bring enough money to split the hotel and pay for all your own meals, entertainment and gambling. If you can't afford it, don't go. If you don't want to shell out the money, don't go.

I believe that when people invite others to an event, they are the hosts and pay for it. Expecting a person you've known for a month to pay $500 or more for your weekend doesn't make a lot of sense from that standpoint.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Juju, here's the very first response to the OP, which happened to be from me.
I responded the same way - told the OP she should pay her own way this early in the relationship or risk the guy thinking he was buying the right to have sex with her. Dinner and a movie is one thing - the guy who asks a woman out should expect to pay for that in the early stages of dating for sure. But a major trip involving plane tickets? I'd be leary of a guy wanting to pay for THAT when I'd only known him a few weeks
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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I have made my arguments here. All I am doing is rehashing them now.

If you feel entitled to remuneration for your company, then you are offering nothing more than an escort service. A man does not owe you anything simply because he asks you out. And that is all I will say on this subject.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired, I am afraid. The issue is of entitlement. I do not expect for a person to foot the bill for me; however, many women on this thread do.

And as soon as someone challenges your incredibly daft notion and inegalitarian notion of what a man should do for a woman's company, you resort to claiming they must be single. You are truly repugnant.
LMAO! So if someone asks me out, which won't be happening because I'm married, I should expect to pay my own way or I'm a prostitute. Is that better?

All you cheap single men really crack me up.
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