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Old 09-06-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Originally Posted by TheEarthBeneathMe View Post
The highlighted is what annoys me about this board...

Now we morphed the guy into some creepo watching kiddie porn, when that wasn't what she said...she never said "they were minors!"

She said they "looked potentially underage"

What was he doing before? What was it exactly you smelled? Was it relegated to one area specifically? Was it strong and constant, or fleeting?

THOSE are the questions to pursue...and counseling first (heck, wife and I did about 3 months of it).

Anyway OP - I'm trying not to sound creepy saying this..but if you want to PM me the names or links of any websites or videos you're concerned about, I don't mind checking them out for you. Even just the name of the website could probably reveal a lot..

This thread is too full of wild (and dirty) imaginations running wild...

Can you HEAR yourself? You want the "potentially underage" websites so you can "check them out" yourself!!!

On what freakn planet, is this ok????


 
Old 09-06-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MsAnnThrope View Post
Can you HEAR yourself? You want the "potentially underage" websites so you can "check them out" yourself!!!

What freakn planet are you on?


Please - keep your dirty imagination out of this...

Leave it in the gutter where it belongs..


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Edit - btw - nice editing out where I explained they were most likely the twenty something's common to those websites...not to mention the advertisements which she apparently mistook (and this board morphed into him) "video chatting" with..

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Old 09-06-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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couldnt rep you again...

It's illustrative of the way organised religion is interested and invested in the continued oppression of women.

If this was a man posting about his wife this way, the "christians" would be ready to burn her in the town square...but because the offender is male, he is just being a man and she needs to work out the issues on her own.

What scares me the most is that they'll go for "counselling" with their (male) pastor and he'll reindoctrinate her with this insane belief.

OP I was married to a creep, too. The trouble is, they get away with being a dirty young man. When they become a dirty old man, it's a whole different ick factor. One day you will be ashamed to even admit you KNOW this man, let alone that you were married to him.

The marriage counselor is a woman. We've seen her before...she is good and can pin him on his bull**** right away. He doesn't like her but he has agreed to go.

I'm trying to be positive, but I think I know what will happen after counseling though...we will go to counseling....my husband will make the minimum amount of changes he thinks he needs to keep me from leaving him...but before too long that "good behavior" will slack off again and we'll be right back where we are. Then we'll go to counseling again and ride the same merry go round again.

I'm pretty sure that is what will happen. I'm hoping for the best though, but still very doubtful.

As far as Susan Powell, I need to go read her emails and see what that was about.
 
Old 09-06-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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The marriage counselor is a woman. We've seen her before...she is good and can pin him on his bull**** right away. He doesn't like her but he has agreed to go.

I'm trying to be positive, but I think I know what will happen after counseling though...we will go to counseling....my husband will make the minimum amount of changes he thinks he needs to keep me from leaving him...but before too long that "good behavior" will slack off again and we'll be right back where we are. Then we'll go to counseling again and ride the same merry go round again.

I'm pretty sure that is what will happen. I'm hoping for the best though, but still very doubtful.

As far as Susan Powell, I need to go read her emails and see what that was about.
Glad you aren't wearing any rose-colored glasses.

Hang in there
 
Old 09-06-2012, 07:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by sara400 View Post
The marriage counselor is a woman. We've seen her before...she is good and can pin him on his bull**** right away. He doesn't like her but he has agreed to go.

I'm trying to be positive, but I think I know what will happen after counseling though...we will go to counseling....my husband will make the minimum amount of changes he thinks he needs to keep me from leaving him...but before too long that "good behavior" will slack off again and we'll be right back where we are. Then we'll go to counseling again and ride the same merry go round again.

I'm pretty sure that is what will happen. I'm hoping for the best though, but still very doubtful.

As far as Susan Powell, I need to go read her emails and see what that was about.
At least you'll have someone to talk to. This guy sounds like ___. What are your goals?

Also, I had a friend whose parents were in this situation years back. A trip back to their native Cambodia and a high phone bill resulted in their split and divorce. The mom confronted the dude who never changed, and she just got a new boyfriend.
 
Old 09-06-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Keeping your family together for your daughters will teach them that women should compromise their values for the sake of men. It will also teach them that such deceptions and behavior on a married man's part are okay. Think of how that will affect their view of a woman's role in the world and in a marriage, and how it will affect how they interact with and what they tolerate from boys and, later on, men.

You are the example that your daughters will learn from.




Actually, I think she is saying that being stressed and hating work are among his excuses for his behavior, the others being his car accident and his claim to PTSD.
^^^ Absolutely! Either that, or they'll grow up never wanting to get married, because all guys are probably scum sucking, porn-watching pervs, like their dad was....and they're NOT gonna put up with it like their weak mother did!
 
Old 09-06-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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So what we have here is a man who loves woman....The woman should be happy- so what if he enjoys woman of all sorts...He is starting to look fairly healthy from what I have gathered---as for porn- nothing wrong with viewing a beautiful woman ....I just don't get the part where men watch other men having sex...If it were real life or in the animal kingdom the alpha ,male would not sit around watching another male- but would run them off....in my world...no one gets into my bed but myself and my WOMAN....

The problem here is that the woman expects this wood be stud to be constantly circling around only her...The man has eyes...What I have noticed the older I get the more beautiful the female form becomes...It makes me really believe in God...all I say to myself when I see a natural beauty go by is "God you sure out did yourself when you created the female...my compliments on your high artistic achievement"...
 
Old 09-06-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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That's a very astute observation. I've seen it many times: By the time the woman gets around to asking for the divorce, she has already worked through everything, it's a lost cause, and now she just wants to move on. Often the man is "shocked" and "surprised," but if you ask the wife, she'll tell you she has tried everything she knew how to get through to him, both bad and good.

A man is going to do what a man wants to do. If he wants to watch 16-year-old Suzy Nutsucker take it up the butt in a gang-bang involving three chimpanzees and a donkey more than he wants to work on his marriage, that's what he will do. If he wants to put his penis in women other than his wife, even though she is more than accommodating in the bedroom herself, that is what he will do.

It doesn't mean his wife has to like it, accept it, or stay married to him.

Some men seem to be under the impression that the OP's disgust with these things means the OP wants to control her husband. I see it as that the OP expected fidelity and a certain amount of decorum from the man she married, things that are perfectly reasonable for anyone, male or female, to expect in a spouse and the other parent of one's children. I mean, really, people. Have you not read what she said? He comes home stinking of someone else's snatch. If your wife or girlfriend came home smelling of semen, you know damn well that you would not be okay with that. Likewise, if you caught your wife watching porn depicting minors doing sex acts--WHICH IS A CRIME--if you are not a pedophile yourself, you know damn well that you would not be okay with that either.

What the OP really seeks to control is her own destiny: Whether she wants to stay married to a man who disgusts her and whom she doesn't trust.

I sense this whole thread is a technicality.
Yes Ma'am!!
 
Old 09-06-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TheEarthBeneathMe View Post
The highlighted is what annoys me about this board...

Now we morphed the guy into some creepo watching kiddie porn, when that wasn't what she said...she never said "they were minors!"

She said they "looked potentially underage" - I'm not defending underage porn - just..lets not over react and make wild assumptions about this - more clarification is needed, before we alert the authorities and do door checks on all the children who live near him..

Frankly - I'm getting the impression they were just your standard 20 something porn girls who are rampant on all those sites, she freaked out (hence her gasping and shock at the distinction of 'hard core' porn), and emotionally went balistic.

For God sakes - she's mistaking webcam ads that say 'lives in your city!' etc to be real! I'm sorry, but those are common advertisements I see on all the sites I go to (yeah..). They track the IP and in an attempt to drive traffic to the site, make it seem the girl is in your town (or somewhere near) so stupid guys will click on it and try to go. And yes, there's usually a video on repeat of the girl...

The "smelling of sex" needs clarification - as jumping to the most extreme conclusions and handing him the consequences for it are, frankly - dishonest and not the best way to give advice..

What was he doing before? What was it exactly you smelled? Was it relegated to one area specifically? Was it strong and constant, or fleeting?

THOSE are the questions to pursue...and counseling first (heck, wife and I did about 3 months of it).

Anyway OP - I'm trying not to sound creepy saying this..but if you want to PM me the names or links of any websites or videos you're concerned about, I don't mind checking them out for you. Even just the name of the website could probably reveal a lot..

This thread is too full of wild (and dirty) imaginations running wild...

OK....you asked for it....I'm sending you 3 sites....out of at least 200 that were in the history. Let me know what you think and if this is just innocent porn viewing and video watching.
 
Old 09-06-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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OK....you asked for it....I'm sending you 3 sites....out of at least 200 that were in the history. Let me know what you think and if this is just innocent porn viewing and video watching.
LOL I didn't actually think you would!

But I'm game!

I'll give my impressions..LOL
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