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In the past we had a lot of threads on this web site talking about how people should stop having kids. People were getting banned, creating new accounts and coming back and posting the same stuff. Especially in the philosophy forum, but in the relationships one too. For example:
It should be, perhaps, but experience indicates it is not the case in the real world.
I have no problem with someone saying "I think people should have kids but not in my particular case because I would be a bad father".
What I don't like is "the planet is 'overpopulated' so people need to stop having kids."
This particular part of your sentence (although I have no desire for children) is quite offensive in my opinion. Why do you have to add "Because I'd be a bad father"? Why can't you accept that some people just don't want kids and it has NOTHING to do with the quality of parenting that said person feels as though they can do?
In the past we had a lot of threads on this web site talking about how people should stop having kids. People were getting banned, creating new accounts and coming back and posting the same stuff. Especially in the philosophy forum, but in the relationships one too. For example:
It's been my experience that if you press the person who doesn't want kids, they will eventually admit that they would support human extinction.
But as long as you're clear that you feel that people in general should keep having kids, but that you personally don't want one, that's fine.
Why are you so obsessed with human extinction when there is a 0% chance it will happen in your lifetime? Each human being only has one life, do you want to spend yours worrying about something that will not happen to you?
The problem is that even if you say you don't have kids, people assume you want them someday. This is the point I was making. It's not that us childfree folks like having to label ourselves. But we feel the need because of what others think about us. The folks who have children can be pretty condescending. My personal favorite is when they tell you that you'll change your mind about having kids.
My favorite is when they ask me who'll take care of me when I'm old. I love their expression even more when I tell them their kids aren't a guarantee either, how many people are in senior homes and never see their children? Or living off their measly social security and the kids don't come around either.
Well in my experience online, including here, anyone who says they are "cfbc" will eventually admit, if pressed, that they are actually "anti-natalist". "Childfree Philosophy" is another word for it. An evil philosophy. Thank God that most humans don't subscribe to it and wouldn't tolerate it. If most people believed in it, the human race would die out in a generation and life on Earth would no longer be protected. It would be like the movie "children of men" where people could no longer reproduce, so in 70 years or so, the entire human race would become extinct.
I finally looked up antinatalist and this childfree philosophy you keep talking about. Nothing substantial comes up under the philosophy bit, so I'm just going to skip that. Out of all the people I have ever met, online or otherwise, that are CFBC, antinatalism has maybe been one. MAYBE! Because I can't recall anyone ever saying that. The closest thign I've heard is a woman saying she doesn't want to go through the birthing process, just because of what it does (and can do) to your body (as in harmful things, not stretch marks).
I'd say that is the VERY extreme and unreal to clump the other 99% of CFBC into that group. This is why I don't tell people I don't want kids.
I'm just curious, how hard do you "press" these people to force them to say these things? Because like I said, in all my years, I don't think I've ever met anyone who felt that way, whereas you say it's everyone. I wonder if they say it just to get you off their back.
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Instead of having a special word for it just say "I do not want kids. But I support others having children because I want the human race to continue."
I don't ever say, "I'm childfree by choice". I always say, "I don't want kids" and then the parent folk start in with the, "you'll change your mind, who'll take care of you when you're older, you'll love your own, blah blah blah". and then I just ignore them. The latter half of the sentence is just as lame as saying I'm CFBC, so I doubt anyone would say it.
The human race is going to continue regardless of how many of us are CFBC or can't have kids. Why? Because there's so many that believe it's our humanly job to procreate. Maybe numbers will drop, but let's be real, that would be a good thing. This planet is overpopulated as it is.
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This particular part of your sentence (although I have no desire for children) is quite offensive in my opinion. Why do you have to add "Because I'd be a bad father"? Why can't you accept that some people just don't want kids and it has NOTHING to do with the quality of parenting that said person feels as though they can do?
Well, we all have an instinctive drive to reproduce. So it has to be something in your conscious mind that makes you ignore that instinct. Either you think you would not be a good parent for emotional reasons or financial reasons. If you thought you would be a good parent then you'd be interested in being one.
I can relate; right now I could not afford to be a parent, and emotionally I am not in a good place to be a father.
What I don't like is "the planet is 'overpopulated' so people need to stop having kids."
And I don't like being told "God said we need to have children, so you have to have children". Why does it matter what people say to you?
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