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Old 09-25-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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But they are also prrrrrrobably the kind you dont want to build a relationship with. Mostly because they are so conditioned that they are "complete and happy on their own" to a point where having a quality relationship adds absolutely nothing to their lives. When you're young and beautiful it is very easy to treat guys as interchangeable. Problems arise when they hit middle age and their looks start to give out a little bit and, lo and behold, dating is not so fun anymore.
This sounds an awful lot like the Material We Do Not Speak Of. Hmm...
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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This sounds an awful lot like the Material We Do Not Speak Of. Hmm...
Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds every time you type that?

You're really not doing a good job of going your own way by spending your time giving "advice" in a romantic relationships forum.
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds every time you type that?

You're really not doing a good job of going your own way by spending your time giving "advice" in a romantic relationships forum.
It is sorta funny all these guys here who espouse the MGTOW stuff spending so much time in a romantic relationships forum.

Oh... the irony.

They ain't quite got the "going their own way" part down yet.
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds every time you type that?

You're really not doing a good job of going your own way by spending your time giving "advice" in a romantic relationships forum.
Especially when there's only one person speaking of what we don't speak of and reminding us about it constantly. Obsessive.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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I have many pretty single girl friends around your age. Funny thing is, they're asking the same thing you are, but about guys.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Yes, the older you get the harder it gets to find quality women close to your age without kids. And the younger women aren't likely to be interested in settling down right away.

Personally I ran into this problem a while back and so far I've just stuck with the younger, single girls. One good thing about being older and dating younger is you already know all the BS & tricks she is likely to pull (having lived through it the first time around).

I was talking to a young co-ed on a break from school the other day and after about 5 minutes she was ready to give me the jump. Probably didn't hurt the guy beside me trying to talk to her was a skinny jeans wearing, effeminate Millennial dude and that I looked even better by contrast.

I mean she didn't seem to be very worldly, but she was enthusiastic and I could see myself taking her to bed. It's not like you have to marry every girl you come across.

Based on your post I wonder if you would have approached her when you saw she was already talking to a guy. If not you've got more to learn than just hoping to luck into a single 27 year old woman who's looking to meet you.

Your joint issue also give me pause. Are you even healthy enough to show a girl a good time or would she be walking into a situation where she'd have to make concessions to keep dating you?

If that's the case I'd start going to lunch at hospital cafeterias (nurses) and/or doing volunteer work (non-profits/social workers) since these are areas where you'll find more empathetic women. Also graveyard shift nurses are likely to be in a situation where they might be high quality women, but their hours make it difficult for them to date.

Basically you can:

1. Find a single mother of quality and date her.
2. Just keep dating younger women who are happy to hop on the horse.
3. Find some other outlet and give up altogether.
4. Relocate somewhere with better odds before you get any older (since 35 seems to be closer to the absolute cutoff).

Problem with the first is you'll always come second in the relationship & there are other issues other than just finding a quality girl.

The second, as you may or may not know yet, tends to be fun for a while, but as you get older and your life is more together these girls can become very annoying to you. But thus far it's preferable to other options.

And if you take the approach I took before by trying to train her to be a better woman you're looking at a crapshoot that's likely to waste your remaining good years. Usually you can eventually break her of some of her bad habits, but overall you're not likely to get any big changes.

Today a lot of guys go with the third option. Safes a lot of time and if you are one of those guys who would rather be hanging out with friends doing geeky stuff it may be an even better option.

And the forth option is probably the one you should go with since 27 is a sweet spot for dating younger if you want, but also dating girls 25+ who are getting to the point where they actually want a family.

In my experience most women like older guys and will date up to 10 years older assuming you don't act old.

A lot can happen in three years (obviously I'm assuming you already can get a date).

Just be thankful you're a guy and you have the option to keep dating younger and won't lose your looks until your mid-40's instead of your mid-30's like women tend to do.

Also keep in mind that just because she's in a relationship doesn't mean she's off limits or even happy. Most quality women tend to be always in a relationship (with brief periods of being single) and it really isn't up to you to play morality police.

Which could very well be your issue. It may all be in your head and thus limiting you in reality.



I remember going out a Goth chick from Rochester back in the day with a tragic flaw--man voice. Sometimes a low voice on a woman can be sexy and other times...it's more of an asthmatic geriatric situation.
The problem is:

1. It is hard to actually find young single women, since most women who are single are 18-20 and in college, which is a social island.

2. If looking at clubs or bars, most women are at least 21 and 70-80% of them are taken by then.

3 If I actually find single women, they will be less likely to want me, the older I get. I am 27 and although I take care of my skin and can pass for younger, eventually they will ask my age. This will become more of a problem as I get older. I could tell them I am younger than my real age and maybe get found out later, at which point they may or may not care, or tell them the truth and they might be turned off by my age.

It seems like there are not alot of good options.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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If I actually find single women, they will be less likely to want me, the older I get. I am 27 and although I take care of my skin and can pass for younger, eventually they will ask my age. This will become more of a problem as I get older. I could tell them I am younger than my real age and maybe get found out later, at which point they may or may not care, or tell them the truth and they might be turned off by my age.
Hmmm ...

It sounds like you will have to do what most people do and 1) be patient, or 2) change your idea of what's acceptable.

When you find that you're considering lying to people before you even meet them, you know there's a problem.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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1. It is hard to actually find young single women, since most women who are single are 18-20 and in college, which is a social island.

2. If looking at clubs or bars, most women are at least 21 and 70-80% of them are taken by then.

3 If I actually find single women, they will be less likely to want me, the older I get. I am 27 and although I take care of my skin and can pass for younger, eventually they will ask my age. This will become more of a problem as I get older. I could tell them I am younger than my real age and maybe get found out later, at which point they may or may not care, or tell them the truth and they might be turned off by my age.
#1. This is true. I have to say: women 18 to 20 are far too young for you, and you might look out-of-place around them. On a more mundane note, you can't get a drink with them.

#2. Women in their early 20's have virtually limitless options. These include very good-looking men their age, and very wealthy older men. An average older man (that's you) won't hold a candle to their other choices.

#3. I agree with Wmsn4Life.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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#1. This is true. I have to say: women 18 to 20 are far too young for you, and you might look out-of-place around them. On a more mundane note, you can't get a drink with them.

#2. Women in their 20's have virtually limitless options. Many of them are with good-looking men their age, or with wealthy older men. An average older man won't hold a candle to their other choices.

#3. I agree with Wmsn4Life.
I certainly don't think women 18 to 20 are far too young for me. I have a have a friend my age who is dating a 19 yr old. Anyways hopefully I find someone and get married soon and don't have to worry about this. I just want to keep my options open in case it does not happen. I had planned on getting married by age 25 when I was in my early 20's and that never happened.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I certainly don't think women 18 to 20 are far too young for me. I have a have a friend my age who is dating a 19 yr old.
Trust me ... you don't want to marry a 20-year-old. Or even a 23-yr-old.
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