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You did state this in this thread:
Further Hard Eco-Evidence against ANY Survivors of Noah's Mythical Flood!
Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
When a ship is without power it makes no difference which way a rudder is turned. The ship will always lie broadside to the seas...A vessel has to be underway for a rudder to have any effect.http://www.city-data.com/forum/23664723-post23.html
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In other words, a ship, an unpowered ship, whether it be made of metal or wood, "WILL ALWAYS LIE BROADSIDE TO THE SEAS."
In other words, such a state would have very, very bad consequences or you would not have written it. When you wrote: ". . . to the seas" did you mean ". . . to the waves"?
In other words, according to you, Noah's ark, being unpowered would always lie broadside to the seas (waves) and therefore, Noah's ark would not be able to survive.
Exactly...No wooden flat sided boxy barge could survive more than moderate seas. (waves)...The oceans have several kinds of waves...
1 Swells that can come from winds hundreds of miles away and can be very large, but without local winds are gentle. Swells are always present, and they are what makes the surf on a beach.
2 Wind waves that can vary according to wind speed, but they build up on top of the swells...The highest recorded wave where I fish was 104 feet...That was wind waves on top of the swells....
3 The most dangerous normal waves occur when the tides or ocean currents oppose large swells combined with wind waves...In that case the waves become very steep ( almost vertical) and violent...
4 Rogue waves happen when two or more waves merge and create a wave more than twice the height of the prevailing waves...Your fabled ark would not stand a chance.
I see no problem with Noah freeze drying food. The higher one goes up the mountains the less pressure there is. I used to mountain climb and used water filled compasses. The higher you go the compass would develope a bubble in it due to the lowered pressure. This lowered pressure helps to extract water from the food. It is not that difficult to understand unless you believe in mind-numbing evolution.
Wherever you got your education, I suggest you ask for your money back.
The higher up in altitude you go RELATIVE TO SEA LEVEL, does indeed cause a lowered atmospheric pressure. In fact, that's how altimeters work, they're really nothing more than very sensitive, adjustable barometers.
However, in the event of a worldwide flood, the air would be pushed upwards as sea level rose. You could be at 30,000' relative to MSL, but if the globe was flooded to 30,000', you'd have MSL pressures.
Wherever you got your education, I suggest you ask for your money back.
The higher up in altitude you go RELATIVE TO SEA LEVEL, does indeed cause a lowered atmospheric pressure. In fact, that's how altimeters work, they're really nothing more than very sensitive, adjustable barometers.
However, in the event of a worldwide flood, the air would be pushed upwards as sea level rose. You could be at 30,000' relative to MSL, but if the globe was flooded to 30,000', you'd have MSL pressures.
Try again.
He seems to have the same functional intelligence as another rabid theists argued with me last fall about the speed of light. He said that if you looked through a telescope, you saw events happening thousands of light years away in real time. This is the science that he based his belief that the universe was only about 13,000 years old, and why we can see objects further than 13K light years away.
And he closed the statement with " and I didn't have to pray about it"
Belief in fairy tales as fact creates some astounding depths of ignorance at times. Sometimes at such a level I can't shake the vision of it from my mind.
Wherever you got your education, I suggest you ask for your money back.
I'm afraid that neither his parents, nor the creationist propaganda mill that printed the homeschooling curriculum they used are likely to be giving refunds.
Wherever you got your education, I suggest you ask for your money back.
The higher up in altitude you go RELATIVE TO SEA LEVEL, does indeed cause a lowered atmospheric pressure. In fact, that's how altimeters work, they're really nothing more than very sensitive, adjustable barometers.
However, in the event of a worldwide flood, the air would be pushed upwards as sea level rose. You could be at 30,000' relative to MSL, but if the globe was flooded to 30,000', you'd have MSL pressures.
I see you have not been reading all the exchanges in these threads. If you had you would notice that it has already been stated that the mountains back then were only about thee to four hundred feet high.
Due to the extreme pressure of the flood waters pushing down on the Pangea plate that plate eventually broke apart which occurred after the flood waters abated. As India's plate pushed north the Himalayas pushed upward.
Of course you can say that occurred millions of years ago but I can just as easily say it occurred about 5,000 years ago. Just because the Himalayas are still ascending at about 2.4 inches per year. This does not prove they always ascended at that rate. Next time, read the posts before you make snide remarks and look foolish.
Exactly...No wooden flat sided boxy barge could survive more than moderate seas. (waves)...The oceans have several kinds of waves...
1 Swells that can come from winds hundreds of miles away and can be very large, but without local winds are gentle. Swells are always present, and they are what makes the surf on a beach.
2 Wind waves that can vary according to wind speed, but they build up on top of the swells...The highest recorded wave where I fish was 104 feet...That was wind waves on top of the swells....
3 The most dangerous normal waves occur when the tides or ocean currents oppose large swells combined with wind waves...In that case the waves become very steep ( almost vertical) and violent...
4 Rogue waves happen when two or more waves merge and create a wave more than twice the height of the prevailing waves...Your fabled ark would not stand a chance.
Just because you say "Your fabled ark would not stand a chance" does not prove it didn't stand a chance. Obviously it did because you and I are here today as a result of it making it through the world-wide flood.
Noah built the ark in a small four-sided valley and put a 300 to 400 foot long rope with anchor on the end of it to keep it in the middle of that small valley so it would not crash against the mountains as it ascended. As the flood all over the world came, the ark slowly lifted up inside that small valley causing a small lake. Near the end of the flood when the waters went above that valley by 25 feet (as the whole world flooded) the waters began to abate. So, in effect, there was no rogue wave, no dangerous normal waves caused by tides or ocean currents or 104 feet waves hitting the ship since it was perfectly protected by the small valley. Yes, the whole world flooded to a depth of around three to four hundred feet. Noah built the ship in a valley of the Arrarat mountains which were at that time about three to four hundred feet high. His ark did not travel the whole world, did not ascend to 30,000 feet, survived the destruction of the whole world by flood.
Just because you say "Your fabled ark would not stand a chance" does not prove it didn't stand a chance. Obviously it did because you and I are here today as a result of it making it through the world-wide flood.
Noah built the ark in a small four-sided valley and put a 300 to 400 foot long rope with anchor on the end of it to keep it in the middle of that small valley so it would not crash against the mountains as it ascended. As the flood all over the world came, the ark slowly lifted up inside that small valley causing a small lake. Near the end of the flood when the waters went above that valley by 25 feet (as the whole world flooded) the waters began to abate. So, in effect, there was no rogue wave, no dangerous normal waves caused by tides or ocean currents or 104 feet waves hitting the ship since it was perfectly protected by the small valley. Yes, the whole world flooded to a depth of around three to four hundred feet. Noah built the ship in a valley of the Arrarat mountains which were at that time about three to four hundred feet high. His ark did not travel the whole world, did not ascend to 30,000 feet, survived the destruction of the whole world by flood.
Wow - still using the "prove it DIDN'T happen" argument? Burden of proof - that's still on your list of things to look up?
I see you have not been reading all the exchanges in these threads. If you had you would notice that it has already been stated that the mountains back then were only about thee to four hundred feet high.
Again, I suggest that you return to your educational institution and request a refund.
The flood in question supposedly happened 4,000 years ago, more or less. While the surface configuration of the earth has changed dramatically over MILLIONS of years, the differences between now and 4,000 years ago would require extremely precise instruments to measure, and certainly wouldn't be obvious to the naked eye.
The idea that mountains that now extend tens of thousands of feet into the sky were only hundreds of feet tall a mere 4,000 years ago (which is but a blink of an eye geologically speaking) is so completely idiotic, it hardly requires a rebuttal.
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Of course you can say that occurred millions of years ago but I can just as easily say it occurred about 5,000 years ago.
It's not me saying that. It's the geological evidence. If you're not a poe, then you are an idiot.
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