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Old 10-23-2007, 10:01 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm not impressed.

God writes the rules, and changes them on a whim... so his 'sacrifice' was completely meaningless.
not true...there are prophecies of Jesus all thru out the OT...so God didnt change the rules. and that "meaningless" part thats talked about is not meaningless to me..and it wont be meaningless throughout all eternity...
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:03 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm not impressed.

God writes the rules, and changes them on a whim... so his 'sacrifice' was completely meaningless.
If we assume that God didn't exist, Jesus rather died than morally comprimise himself.
I find this true courage.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:08 AM
 
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not true...there are prophecies of Jesus all thru out the OT...so God didnt change the rules. and that "meaningless" part thats talked about is not meaningless to me..and it wont be meaningless throughout all eternity...
Unless I'm right, and god doesn't exist: in which case, yes - in 10,000 years christianity will have been replaced by some other religion, and in 5 billion years, our sun will atomize our entire solar system, and obliterate any remnants of mankind.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:11 AM
 
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Unless I'm right, and god doesn't exist: in which case, yes - in 10,000 years christianity will have been replaced by some other religion, and in 5 billion years, our sun will atomize our entire solar system, and obliterate any remnants of mankind.
of course thats your opinion..and you are def entitled to it..but just for arguments sake..what if your wrong??
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:16 AM
 
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[quote=satanoid;1804144]First of all, how was it a sacrifice when jesus was only subjected to a few days of pain, and then immediately zipped back up to heaven to

Indeed, only a few days of pain of every sin of the world on his shoulders..Only a few days of pain so we could be forgiven of those sins he carried for us, only a few days of pain because he loves us enough to want us to spend eternity with him...


Secondly, god could make a billion christs, and sacrifice them all, so what makes jesus so special?

Yes, God was capable of doing that, but he chose his ONLY begotten son so that we would have a better idea of his love..Jesus was part of God..
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:49 AM
 
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of course thats your opinion..and you are def entitled to it..but just for arguments sake..what if your wrong??
Well, if i am wrong, and you are right, I will likely go to hell.

If we are *both* wrong, who knows.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:52 AM
 
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Well, if i am wrong, and you are right, I will likely go to hell.

If we are *both* wrong, who knows.
does that part concern you?
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:56 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm not impressed.

God writes the rules, and changes them on a whim... so his 'sacrifice' was completely meaningless.
It's only meaningless if you don't understand the meaning of it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:57 AM
 
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Yes, God was capable of doing that, but he chose his ONLY begotten son so that we would have a better idea of his love..Jesus was part of God..
See, how is that at all impressive or significant?

God didn't 'give' us anything. He sent jesus away for a few short years, which is completely insignificant to a being who is eternal.

This huge 'sacrifice' doesn't impress me in the slightest.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:08 AM
 
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The significance isn't in the sacrifice itself, but in what the sacrifice set in motion. You're missing the forest for the trees.
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