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Old 09-09-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Funny how he refuses to comment on his side doing the exact same thing that he is screeching about others doing.
But it's not the same side. The fact that you can't figure that out is telling.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I'm sorry, but this isn't about those judges refusing to do all marriages. This is about a bigoted lesbian judge refusing to marry heterosexuals in order to communicate a message. Why must you continue to attempt to hijack the thread?
Wrong, she refused to do all marriages, they are refusing to do all marriages. The EXACT SAME THING.

Seems that you think it's ok if your guys refuse to do weddings because gays can get married, but not ok for her to refuse to do weddings because gays can't.

Why is that?
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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But it's not the same side. The fact that you can't figure that out is telling.
It is EXACTLY the same. One side refused because they don't like that gays can get married, the other side refused because gays couldn't.
NEITHER is required to do ANY marriages at all. It is OPTIONAL for both.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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It is EXACTLY the same. One side refused because they don't like that gays can get married, the other side refused because gays couldn't.
NEITHER is required to do ANY marriages at all. It is OPTIONAL for both.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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But it's not the same side. The fact that you can't figure that out is telling.
LOL!

Hoist with your own petard.

Sweet.
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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So you can't comment on your own hypocrisy for calling out one but not the other?

Figures.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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This one apparently thinks so. Funny...but in 3 years of refusing to do the marriages, no one reprimanded her, and she was not sent to jail.

Sounds like a double standard to me.

Judge Parker refuses to conduct marriages because they
Vizio, let's try one more time: the laws that might apply are about discriminating against one of the named classes of people who have historically suffered institutional discrimination by the small-minded and vicious, not about anybody who might want something you are capable of doing but refuse.


There ....,. is..... a...... good..... reason.... for...... those..... laws. It's about righting a long-standing wrong.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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1. She explained why she didn't perform marriage ceremonies (the optional aspect has already been covered) and then referred them to another judge who was willing to perform the marriage.

2. She did not tell state employees under her control that they were prohibited from performing marriage ceremonies.

3. No one sued her.

4. No court told her she needed to perform marriage ceremonies.

5. No appellate court told her she needed to perform marriage ceremonies.

6. The Supreme Court of the United States did not deny her writ trying to negate points 4 and 5.

Do you need some more reasons?
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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1. She explained why she didn't perform marriage ceremonies (the optional aspect has already been covered) and then referred them to another judge who was willing to perform the marriage.
The county clerk did the same thing. She was sent to jail. The baker tried to do the same thing. They got fined huge amounts of money.
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2. She did not tell state employees under her control that they were prohibited from performing marriage ceremonies.
Did she have any subordinates that could do marriages? This isn't really a valid point.
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3. No one sued her.
That's because no one cared. Christians don't pretend to be offended and sue at the drop of a hat.
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4. No court told her she needed to perform marriage ceremonies.
So you're saying no one cares what a bigoted lesbian judge does?
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5. No appellate court told her she needed to perform marriage ceremonies.
Again....no one cares what a bigoted lesbian judge does to discriminate against heteros.
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6. The Supreme Court of the United States did not deny her writ trying to negate points 4 and 5.

Do you need some more reasons?
I think you've made it clear. There is a double standard.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You can lead a person to the truth. But if they lack the perceptual and cognitive abilities to recognize and understand that truth, there's not much you can do except hope they don't hurt themselves or others.
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