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If nate's posts in any way resembled what L8 described, you'd have a point. As it is, he said the words, "the way" (referring to having the best interest of everyone at heart), and you filled in the rest with your very vivid imagination.
You did not answer the questions asked in point 85. that is your prerogative. the point I am making is in regards to the red flag behaviors described in post 11. as far as i can tell you don't see a problem with those behaviors described in post 11. and you can't (or won't) tell us why those behaviors are problematic.
also, Nate pointedly and consistently refers to the Way. not the way.
You did not answer the questions asked in point 85. that is your prerogative. the point I am making is in regards to the red flag behaviors described in post 11. as far as i can tell you don't see a problem with those behaviors described in post 11. and you can't (or won't) tell us why those behaviors are problematic.
also, Nate pointedly and consistently refers to the Way. not the way.
You are being ridiculous on both counts.
1. Of course the things L8 brought up are a problem.
2. Do you or do you not agree that the way/The Way for people to be in community with each other is to be concerned about the well-being of everyone?
And you continue to do it. You brazenly ignore our views, and you tell us what we think.
And you wonder why we have very little good to say about you.
Gosh I'm sorry. I thought all fundamentalists (at least of the Baptist variety) believed that "sinners" would be damned to Hell for all eternity. Please tell me how I am wrong about this OR tell me about how eternal punishment for temporal sin does NOT violate the principle of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
Or did you think I was talking about something else?
1. Of course the things L8 brought up are a problem.
2. Do you or do you not agree that the way/The Way for people to be in community with each other is to be concerned about the well-being of everyone?
OK, then tell us why those behaviors are a problem. For these specific behaviors, why are they red flags:
"there is only one way to God"
"this is best for you"
"this is best for everyone"
"no one else has the truth, they are wrong, corrupt, in error, off the rails"
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OK, then tell us why those behaviors are a problem. For these specific behaviors, why are they red flags:
"there is only one way to God"
"this is best for you"
"this is best for everyone"
"no one else has the truth, they are wrong, corrupt, in error, off the rails"
Give it a rest, Tzap. Just admit that your post about nate was silly, and let it go.
And, in your mind, saying that having the best interest of everyone at heart, is controlling, manipulation and mind control? Surely not.
Nowhere has nate said that only people in a certain religion or non-religion can fulfill that guiding principle. Nor has he said any of the things you put in quotes. So, what's the problem?
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
If nate's posts in any way resembled what L8 described, you'd have a point. As it is, he said the words, "the way" (referring to having the best interest of everyone at heart), and you filled in the rest with your very vivid imagination.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
It's really pretty simple. Is Tzap against the idea of having the best interest of everyone at heart for some reason? I can't see any other reason why she'd be so up in arms about nate's posts.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
You did not answer the questions asked in point 85. that is your prerogative. the point I am making is in regards to the red flag behaviors described in post 11. as far as i can tell you don't see a problem with those behaviors described in post 11. and you can't (or won't) tell us why those behaviors are problematic.
also, Nate pointedly and consistently refers to the Way. not the way.
The Way as described by nate, is NOT restricted to ANY particular religion. It is the principle of life that Jesus embodied and demonstrated, but it is not remotely limited to followers of Christ.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
OK, then tell us why those behaviors are a problem. For these specific behaviors, why are they red flags:
"there is only one way to God"
"this is best for you"
"this is best for everyone"
"no one else has the truth, they are wrong, corrupt, in error, off the rails"
You, NOT nate, are the only one promoting those behaviors or attitudes. They are your straw men. The JW's are guilty, many Christian denominations are guilty of them, etc. but NOT nate or me or Pleroo.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
Give it a rest, Tzap. Just admit that your post about nate was silly, and let it go.
OK, then tell us why those behaviors are a problem. For these specific behaviors, why are they red flags:
"there is only one way to God"
"this is best for you"
"this is best for everyone"
"no one else has the truth, they are wrong, corrupt, in error, off the rails"
Please let me: "one way" is a problem if the person promoting that way is talking about a specific set of beliefs that only his group teaches, when the "way" is something that is available to everyone in ANY faith tradition it is not a problem at all
"Best" again is a matter of whether a specific practice or set of practices is being promoted, especially if it is only taught in the group of the promoter. When it is talking about a relationship in love with God and man, what COULD be better?
If someone is claiming that no one else has the truth, that would setiously be a problem suspiciously like a cult. When one claims that the truth may be found in ANY faith tradition and that the various tradition really have no bearing on that truth it is not what you would want to call a cult.
The Way as described by nate, is NOT restricted to ANY particular religion. It is the principle of life that Jesus embodied and demonstrated, but it is not remotely limited to followers of Christ.
You, NOT nate, are the only one promoting those behaviors or attitudes. They are your straw men. The JW's are guilty, many Christian denominations are guilty of them, etc. but NOT nate or me or Pleroo.
Since when? You are continually trying to convince everyone on here that you have found the ONLY way, via ripping up all the books. Peace
Since when? You are continually trying to convince everyone on here that you have found the ONLY way, via ripping up all the books. Peace
Whereas you just burn books.
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