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Old 12-03-2008, 07:01 PM
 
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And here i am now, an atheist, or am I not realy an atheist because i was once "god's child"?
I believe that you are still God's child forkpower. All that is out of Him returns to Him (Romans 11:36) God bless.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:09 PM
 
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God doesn't tell people how to do the right thing. In fact there is nothing in the Bible for doing right: except Being Righteous and fine upstanding. Doing right is the problem of the devil and man trying to do as good as the other, which is important if you need to make a lot of money, or satisfy your lover and friend.
The Bible has a lot to say about doing the right thing, yet doing good works will not earn you salvation or eternal life.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:13 PM
 
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Ok, what does that make me then? I was raised Lutheran, baptized, confirmed, the whole nine yards. And then i realized that my faith was not my own, began to think for myself on such maters, and the more i thought about it the more i didn't believe. And here i am now, an atheist, or am I not realy an atheist because i was once "god's child"?
God's children follow Him, those who do not love Him go their own way.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:55 PM
 
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Why is anyone punishing their kids?

Who are they to be 'punishing' them?

Most parents will say...

Well what do you do when your kids are bad?

God correct His children on earth because He loves them.

YOU decide to be burning in Hell because you chose to reject Him.

Otherwise....give your life to Jesus, and repent from your sins.
Not only will your life change but you'll have everlasting life with God.
Yanno...when my kids ignore me, I tend not to condemn them to eternal pain and torment. Maybe this makes me a bad candidate for Godhood, I dunno.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:00 PM
 
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It has to do with the size of the offense. God is immeasurable and eternal. An offense against him is likewise immeasurable.
So it's all about ego, in other words. "You better worship me or I'll zap you into eternal hellfire and damnation."
What's the eleventh commandment-- Thou shalt have no wire hangers?
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:05 PM
 
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no such thing as a bad Christian
Renriq, you need to get out more. The world's full of 'em.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:07 PM
 
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Wheee, I'm the antichrist!
It's a dirty job, Sushi, but somebody had to do it.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:08 PM
 
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That's like saying we have Bad Holy People.

if they're acting bad then you believe they dont represent the Christian religion

Renriq, have you ever heard of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? You've just offered a perfect example.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I believe that you are still God's child forkpower. All that is out of Him returns to Him (Romans 11:36) God bless.
I thank you for your sentiments. but this sounds to much like destiny and not something I would have chosen for my self.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You may have been baptized, confirmed, gone to church, but did you ever ask Jesus into your heart and forgive you of your sins, did you have true repentance, a real relationship with Jesus? If your answer is no, then you never were a child of the King.
Oh yes, I even vaguely remember when i prayed for such forgiveness. But I never felt changed or different at all, I knew that I was still accountable for my own actions and that god had no part in them. If i had to narrow it down I would say two things lead me away from christianity. First, it was never my choice, never my religion. Second, as my mind grew there was no more need for religion. And that, in fact many religions can hinder that growth.

But this is only my personal story, I'm sure its not the same for every one.
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