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My lifestyle is just fine. Married. Love my spouse, never touched another man. Love my kids. Don't cheat, don't steal, don't do anything evil....just came out of a Pentecostal church of 14 years....maybe thats the problem! Too much brainwashing by the almighty powerful UPC elders! I still believe in Jesus, thanks. I just question the validity of some of the stuff I read in the bible. Mostly the OT.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
UPC doesnt believe that there is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
They believe that there's only Jesus...nothing else.
No you are wrong. They just believe that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. They obviously believe in the father and the son. Not that I am defending them...they annoy me.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
UPC doesnt believe that there is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
They believe that there's only Jesus...nothing else.
Now wait though, they believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all found in Jesus. And Jesus was obviously God....You believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all 3 in one also....so don't you guys really believe the same thing?
Now wait though, they believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all found in Jesus. And Jesus was obviously God....You believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all 3 in one also....so don't you guys really believe the same thing?
they dont believe there is a 'separate entity' for the Father or the Holy Spirit.
They believe Jesus was all 3 of them at the same time.
They dont believe that Jesus prayed to the Father in Heaven which contradicts scriptures...
That's why it's the spirit of antichrist.....they deny the Father, and only accept Jesus
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Now wait though, they believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all found in Jesus. And Jesus was obviously God....You believe that Father Son and Holy Spirit are all 3 in one also....so don't you guys really believe the same thing?
I would not burn my children forever no matter what they did. That's love. Eternal torment is just sick.
All Christians (Christian Universalists for example) do not believe in an eternal hell or that the scriptures teach that people will exist in never ending torment. I don't because, for one reason, there are too many scriptures which speak of God's ultimate plan to reconcile to Himself. (Colossians 1:15-20, Romans 8: 18-22), as examples) I agree with whoever said that if God sees all and knows all, He knew that the majority would end up in eternal hell, if eternal hell is true. He then, brought it into existence with the knowledge that people would suffer for all of eternity. God, on the other hand, is love, not hatred which is what eternal hell suggests. No one that I know of chooses to suffer for all of eternity. Jesus taught us to love our enemies and to be perfect like Father who is described as love. I do believe that people will reap what they sow, and that any suffering is for a higher purpose, but I do not believe that the scriptures teach that this is eternal/ never ending suffering. God bless.
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At the outset of creation, God saw everything He had made, including how it related to the past, present, and future, since He transcends the time realm. What was His conclusion? It was all “indeed” very good. Notice the word “indeed.” How is it possible that God could say all was “indeed very good” knowing eternal woe was the destiny awaiting the vast majority of humanity?
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