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Old 10-21-2020, 12:44 PM
 
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The Bible absolutely does NOT say that we were born deserving of damnation. Period. It simply doesn't. It does, however, say that we must become "as little children" in order to enter the kingdom of Heaven.
You really should read Ephesians 2 sometime. It really does. I mean...if you care at all about what it actually says.
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You really should read Ephesians 2 sometime. It really does. I mean...if you care at all about what it actually says.
And you apparently think I haven't.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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You think those that are at war with God and children of Satan are children of God? Really?
Because until we are born again, that's what we are.
Utterly preposterous!! What a sick and evil theology.

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Lol.
Calvinism is stupid.

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Stupid AND disgusting AND insulting to our God-given intelligence.
And evil.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Utterly preposterous!! What a sick and evil theology.


And evil.
Amen!
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Really? I don't think God would call it arrogance for us to recognize that we are, in fact, extremely special to Him.
It depends who the "we" is.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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That seems to be a very prevalent human desire, but it is only of human origin, IMO. The consciousness I encountered had no such preferential or conditional acceptance and love. We were ALL ONE and equally loved so I am in the camp of no special or chosen ones.
Would you say that the typical christian view is that god loves all,e ven those who belong to cultures which generally don't believe in god?
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You think those that are at war with God and children of Satan are children of God? Really?

Because until we are born again, that's what we are.
Look at the hyperbole you use in YOUR christianity.

"at war with god" "children of satan".

Now let's start with just this question (cause I wouldn't want to confuse you): who are these children who were not god's creation?
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Speak for yourself, BF. I am a daughter of a Heavenly Father, who loves me, and I love Him. I never have been at war with God and I have never been a child of Satan.
It's really shameful how SOME christians treat other christians, let alone people of other religions, or no religion at all.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's really shameful how SOME christians treat other christians, let alone people of other religions, or no religion at all.
It's actually shameful how even people within the same denomination of Christianity treat others within their own denomination, based on differences in how various points of doctrine are interpreted. (I'm speaking from experience on this.)
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It's actually shameful how even people within the same denomination of Christianity treat others within their own denomination, based on differences in how various points of doctrine are interpreted. (I'm speaking from experience on this.)
And I see it occasionally in Buddhism, too.
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