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A democracy denotes free elections with the majority vote getter prevailing...that's who rules.
Same with determining laws...put it to a vote...the majority rules...and that determines the law.
Of course, that leaves the minority being lead by people they didn't pick, and being governed by laws they may not agree with.
There ya go. Other people are not your property. Even if you get a thousand of you in a circle around me, and every single one of you votes, I am not your property. You have no claim to me, or anything that is mine.
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But it is the most fair way to do things...it satisfies the most people possible...and that is the best you can ever hope to do.
I disagree.
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How does the democratic process make other people your property?
Because if enough people vote that you owe them a hundred bucks, you have to work to pay them the money they "legitimately" voted for. That means they are telling you what to do, much like they would cattle, property.
Because if enough people vote that you can't paint your house blue, they have more control over your house than you do, even if they don't live there, don't pay for it, don't support it, and never see it. That's taking from you that which is yours.
Because if enough people vote that you should die, they can kill you without justification, provocation, warning, or explanation. That's exceeding your ownership of your own body.
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Atheists tend to disapprove of a "majority rules" Democratic system. Because they are in such a small minority...they are paranoid.
Yes. That's because in large groups people tend to get very, very stupid.
Democracy allows for individuals to act in ways they would never act alone. By themselves, they would never demand a hundred dollars from you. Put them in a crowd, and they'll start chanting for your head.
It's a stupid and dangerous method of transferring power from some people to other people based on nothing more than popularity, without their consent, and with the full ramifications that come with the violence of government.
Edit: And most atheists are not disapproving of majority rules government. Most that I have met in my lifetime are strong statists with a wide socialist streak. I am a minority in the minority.
Atheism is on the rise as more and more of the new science and discoveries are taught in the schools, it will keep getting stronger. More and more a less afraid to speak about their disbelief, see The god believers have this knack for persecuting and belittling those that don't think like them. And no it is your god, my husband follows their gods ( pagan) still to this day, so those are their gods, as yours is not the only god people follow. There is no FACTS in God, you may like to think so but sorry it just isn't true, no facts about your god exist.
Not unlike the team with a record of no better than 10wins and 90Losses for years...improving to a record of 11Wins and 89Losses...and then telling the never unseated Championship team with a record of 90Wins and 10Losses...that they better watch out, because they are "on the rise" and "getting stronger".
No offense, but...Atheism will NEVER be anything more than a radical fringe viewpoint, held by a very small minority. The overwhelming indications point to God...both in evidence and opinion. I'm sorry if that causes you distress to face the reality of that...but that IS the TRUTH.
If every single person stopped "believing" in science, it wouldn't care, it would simply continue to create everything from amoeba to gargantuan galaxies, as it did for billions of years before any intelligentce even knew it was there.
THIS is EXACTLY where some Atheist scientists are delusional.
"Science" DOESN'T create anything...it just discovers what is already there...figures out how what is already there functions/works...and how to manipulate the already existing matter and energy.
Nothing is created by "science". God created, and is the essence of, everything...science just studies and research's what is God and Gods' creation.
But science is good for showing us what an amazing universe God created...and I thank science for that.
Not unlike the team with a record of no better than 10wins and 90Losses for years...improving to a record of 11Wins and 89Losses...and then telling the never unseated Championship team with a record of 90Wins and 10Losses...that they better watch out, because they are "on the rise" and "getting stronger".
No offense, but...Atheism will NEVER be anything more than a radical fringe viewpoint, held by a very small minority. The overwhelming indications point to God...both in evidence and opinion. I'm sorry if that causes you distress to face the reality of that...but that IS the TRUTH.
No distress at all, I am not worried, because as education and discoveries become more prevalent and more and more raise their children to see evolution is true and that god is a myth, the believers will become fewer in numbers. It is happening, no matter how you try to ignore it.
Teams can go on losing streaks and become the jokes of the league. Happens all the time.
Man's understanding of science supports itself with evidence and proven fact, it does not need my help. It can be duplicated in experiments, it can be observed, measured, quantified, and scientists try to disprove things, as if it can't it further confirms the accuracy. If every single person stopped "believing" in science, it wouldn't care, it would simply continue to create everything from amoeba to gargantuan galaxies, as it did for billions of years before any intelligentce even knew it was there.
Deities on the other hand would vanish into wisps of nothingness if everyone stopped believing, returning to where they were before they were invented by man, non-existent.
Early man did not have a clue as to why the sun came up every day, but he knew it warmed him, so he invented a god he believed controlled the sun. It also allowed him to alleviate the fear that the sun would not return, so he worshiped this recently invented god, in the hope the sun would always come back every day. These gods were born in fear from the lack of understanding of the science behind literally everything, and sadly fear remains today the true power of religion.
The list is just fact, sorry you can't see that.
Possibly Englishmen were very wild.
"Wild people" could not be afraid of the nature. They lived in harmony with the nature. Harmony is a goddess. Perfection.
Not unlike the team with a record of no better than 10wins and 90Losses for years...improving to a record of 11Wins and 89Losses...and then telling the never unseated Championship team with a record of 90Wins and 10Losses...that they better watch out, because they are "on the rise" and "getting stronger".
Sigh, third grade mentallity.
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The overwhelming indications point to God...both in evidence...
I thought belief in god was on faith as opposed to evidence? There's never any consistency on this. Why is that?
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...and opinion.
Argumentum ad populum.
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THIS is EXACTLY where some Atheist scientists are delusional.
"Science" DOESN'T create anything...it just discovers what is already there...figures out how what is already there functions/works...and how to manipulate the already existing matter and energy.
Nothing is created by "science". God created, and is the essence of, everything...science just studies and research's what is God and Gods' creation.
But science is good for showing us what an amazing universe God created...and I thank science for that.
Strawman, I know Asheville Native doesn't believe that the study of nature actively creates things and I know that no atheist or human for that matter believes that. Why purposely misrepresent people in such a way?
THIS is EXACTLY where some Atheist scientists are delusional.
"Science" DOESN'T create anything...it just discovers what is already there...figures out how what is already there functions/works...and how to manipulate the already existing matter and energy.
Nothing is created by "science". God created, and is the essence of, everything...science just studies and research's what is God and Gods' creation.
But science is good for showing us what an amazing universe God created...and I thank science for that.
Science creates only understanding and the ability to utilize the forces at work. But that in do way gives any credence to some lonely deity made it.
The laws of nature and physics, created the universe, and are running it very well, thank you. It is a marvelous and wonderful place. Science is the study of these forces for understanding and to better utilize them for both good and bad.
The pure speculative belief in deities seem to have an unnatural control over the ability of man to reason, so without the slightest hint of proof the deity is assumed to be the force everything. This belief is also doing a really poor job of running things also, all the wars, strife, hatred, intolerance, bigotry, homophobia, and just outright ugliness, all based on these belief systems. The last two wars this country has been involved in, the genocides that have killed millions in Africa in the last decade, and so on all the way back to the invention of imaginary deities.
That is really a very shallow view, but I guess it is 'comfortable' so the people that are afraid to think, stick with it. like on old pair of shoes that should be tossed, but are comfortable.
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