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Without Christianity you'd have no moral standard, no ten commandments.
It's obvious that this statement is false because atheists like myself don't believe in God or the Christian religion and yet I have a strong sense of morality and what is right and wrong, I just don't have to be threatened with hell in order to live a moral life.
It's obvious that this statement is false because atheists like myself don't believe in God or the Christian religion and yet I have a strong sense of morality and what is right and wrong, I just don't have to be threatened with hell in order to live a moral life.
Not only that but ....
"A growing body of evidence, though, suggests that humans do have a rudimentary moral sense from the very start of life."
It's obvious that this statement is false because atheists like myself don't believe in God or the Christian religion and yet I have a strong sense of morality and what is right and wrong, I just don't have to be threatened with hell in order to live a moral life.
Life in the business world has taught me that there must be a level of trust between customer/vendor. Almost without exception a rule I learned early was that if the customer wears their religion on their sleeve, i.e. big garish cross worn outside business attire, this person is not to be trusted. It has served me well and proven 90%+ accurate.
I even had one that wanted to pray about an addendum he requested to a contract instead of signing the document. Yep this guy wanted to prey alright. He then tried to renege on the contract.
christians so often speak from the platform of ignorance of fact
And here are some annoying facts that support this:
Christians make up 75% of the US Population
Christians make up 75% of the prison population
Atheists make up 10% of the US population
Atheists only make up 0.2% of the prison population
Now which group takes the high ground in regards to morals?
That's the most frequently asked question from a religious person -- how would you answer it?
Well, it may come in different versions, but they all mean the same thing:
"What do atheists believe?"
"What do you think created the universe?"
"What are your moral values and worldview?"
"Is nature your God?"
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What is Atheist's god, you ask?? Don't have one, don't need one.
Athiets don't "believe" anything. We accept the facts of reality based on evidence. There is absoolutely no "belief" involved (belief being the holding of a "fact" to be true despite a lack of evidence.)
We don't think any "who" created the Universe. Mankind's constant exploration of the Universe will soon uncover its origins.
Moral vaues are "natural law". Do unto others as you would have them do to you". It is sound values.
Nature is not my god because I have and need no gods.
If there is no God then everything is permissible. Where do you get your morals from?
Here is the arrogance of believers for all to see.
If effect they are saying "how can anybody possibly be moral that doesn't believe as I do???"
Atheists morality comes from within, not from some carrot-and-stick belief a higher power. If you NEED you religion to be a good person, then by all means keep your religion, but don't ascribe the same sort of moral weakness on others, for we don't all need the "crutch" you do.
It is sad that save for your religion, you would be an immoral person.
So very sad.
I can only agree 100%. People that believe this must be constantly wrestling with their desire to commit atrocities, and usually stop themselves only from the irrational fear of the consequences from an imaginary being.
These people scare me, a lot, as it is not natural to have such feelings to keep in check in regardless of the methods or mind games they use to keep themselves from doing so. These are the people that drown their 5 kids in the tub, and other atrocities.
Perhaps that is why while Atheists make up 10%+ of the population, yet compose only 0.2% of the prison population.
Yet they follow a deity that their urban legends says has murdered between 2 and 10 million people
What is Atheist's god, you ask?? Don't have one, don't need one.
Athiets don't "believe" anything. We accept the facts of reality based on evidence. There is absoolutely no "belief" involved (belief being the holding of a "fact" to be true despite a lack of evidence.)
We don't think any "who" created the Universe. Mankind's constant exploration of the Universe will soon uncover its origins.
Moral vaues are "natural law". Do unto others as you would have them do to you". It is sound values.
Nature is not my god because I have and need no gods.
Let's get something straight...Atheists, like Believers..."believe" EVERYTHING they think, regardless of what is is they are contemplating.
Unless someone would be so irrational to make the determination that information known as "facts" are 100% infallible...and I submit...NOTHING is infallible...we all have to have belief in the data we get.
I find this to be the most egregious of the claims made by the Atheists against the Believers...that they (the Atheists), "go by evidenced based facts"...while the Believers, "go by blind faith".
As fallible as even the most widely held "evidenced based facts" have proved to be..."belief" is ALWAYS a requirement, for ALL information...regardless of opinion as to if there exists a "higher power".
(First, regarding this quote from you: "while the Atheists go "by blind faith", I'll assume you meant "theists". We atheists don't buy into "blind faith" because, well... it's blind! Yuk!)
So now, take these comments:
"I believe I'll have another beer!"
Or...
"I believe that this bowling ball falling on my foot will hurt!"
Or...
"I believe that this is actually a real fossil in my hands, and not a Godly "plant!"
These are not just fantasies! And what if they all come together (like the evidence for Evolution so clearly does...), such as when I'm looking at a dinosaur fossil a friend brought in, in a bowling alley, whilst enjoying a beer?
It's all too much for my head! It's positively incontrovertible!
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