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I agree a big diamond doesn't mean the marriage will last any longer. I remember girls almost breaking their wrist so you would notice their ring.
My story.. my 1st engagement ring from DLH was cubic zirconia from a grocery store give away. Buy so much and get X for a reduced price. We didn't have a lot of money and there is no way he could afford the 'real' thing. Didn't matter to me.. it was the thought that counted. Of course, we were a little more realistic since we had both been married before and not in our 20s.
That ring meant so much to me, not for what it cost, but for what it stood for.
On our 15th wedding anniversary, he gave me a beautiful 1 ct diamond solitaire 'I couldn't do it right the first time, but I wanted to make it right now' He joked about the light being on because the diamond sparkled when in the light.
He died 2 months later. Of course, I love that ring, but I would much rather have him with me than that ring.
I have thought about this, as I usually think about all things that people just except at face value, and I can't help but think...what's in it for the guy?
I mean, a man spends thousand, upon THOUSANDS of dollars for a women to have some ugly, glass-like rock picked out of the dirt by some poor enslaved kid in a war-torn part of Africa, and what the heck does he get in return?
A "I DOOOO!" and a hug! I mean, why can't she buy him something in return?
IF I ever get married, after I give her a opal, obsidian or thulite ring, set in (hopefully) reycled titanium, and she accepts, I will respestfully give her some time to let it sing in and than let it be known that I will expect an authentic antique functional sword at some point before the wedding. Nothing particular...but a katana would be sweet
Hey, fair is fair, if I'm shelling out the money to show my love for her, than why shouldn't she shell out the money to show her love for me?
And if I didn't get a sword, than there would be no wedding and I'll take the ring back, thank you very much. Fair is fair.
I'm sorry if you haven't been informed, but men spend way more $ on one marriage (including engagement, married life, divorce, and alimony) than if they stayed single and just dated or had serial girlfriends.
So if you are a man who makes a lot of $, loves freedom, loves variety, and hates pain and loss, stay single.
I have thought about this, as I usually think about all things that people just except at face value, and I can't help but think...what's in it for the guy?
I mean, a man spends thousand, upon THOUSANDS of dollars for a women to have some ugly, glass-like rock picked out of the dirt by some poor enslaved kid in a war-torn part of Africa, and what the heck does he get in return?
A "I DOOOO!" and a hug! I mean, why can't she buy him something in return?
IF I ever get married, after I give her a opal, obsidian or thulite ring, set in (hopefully) reycled titanium, and she accepts, I will respestfully give her some time to let it sing in and than let it be known that I will expect an authentic antique functional sword at some point before the wedding. Nothing particular...but a katana would be sweet
Hey, fair is fair, if I'm shelling out the money to show my love for her, than why shouldn't she shell out the money to show her love for me?
And if I didn't get a sword, than there would be no wedding and I'll take the ring back, thank you very much. Fair is fair.
Yet another thread from a disgruntled, anti-social emo trying to justify how superficial women are...is there anything else you can think of other than share with us how much you hate women?
Anyway, when I get engaged, it wouldn't be a Blood Diamond, it would be something priceless (because, love is suppose to anyway) like a pretty-looking ring that is inexpensive
and my token of my love is.....ME!! And all my goodies!!!
I read an article that reminded me that this is supposed to be traditional.
Now that I'm an adult,
I look at that and think that if that's the expectation, it devalues the man.
Having to buy their way in, to the in-law's family?
Isn't having a life with a house, cars, kids and perhaps a dog expensive enough?
I think it's a lot to expect of a guy,
if his presence in the family is just going to be "pleasantly-tolerated" over many, many years
as what also seems typical in many families.
What makes me think of this is I wanted to find a parallel,
when the husbands/fathers are shown equal appreciation in a traditional sense
and I can't think of any, other than a few Father's Day presents.
Add to that all the other gifts that are traditionally given to wives at different anniversaries and occasions.
I suppose my view could be a bit skewed,
because nowadays it's very easy for a women to get a job to buy these herself.
As a man, I wouldn't expect anything to be bought for me by the wife or in-laws, except for birthday and Christmas presents.
I dated a chick back in late 2009/early 2010 who told me that she would turn down a marriage proposal if the ring wasn't up to her standards. She was serious. She then became my ex-girlfriend.
The "two months salary" engagement ring isn't so much a tradition as a marketing campaign by the diamond companies. Traditionally the engagement ring (which wasn't necessarily a diamond) was a token to prove to the fiance and her family that the man could provide for her, and also a way for him to mark his territory, so to speak.
Are you asking about engagement/wedding ring expenses, or commenting about a perception that men spend more on women in general than vice versa? Both of these topics have been debated at length, so I can merge your thread into one of those threads, but I need to know which one.
Do what you feel is appropriate, or discuss it with her. IMO, it's an outmoded tradition or expectation, and can easily be modified by intelligent adults to match their own needs and priorities. We wanted rings, but not the traditional engagement ring/wedding band, so we designed our own all-in-one rings. Also, she does not like diamonds, so we used something we liked instead. Total cost was less than a month's salary for something totally unique and meaningful to us.
The big diamond rock seems too much like a "buying the cow" mentality.
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