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I'm beginning to think that these types are the people who get handed the most opportunities. Sometimes it seems like the more competent you are the fewer opportunities you get. I see this happen all the time.
The only logical explanation I can come up with is that "screw ups" take more risks.
The guy is probably very good at his job.
Seems like he's not very tactful.
The guy is probably very good at his job.
Seems like he's not very tactful.
True. I think that lack of tact can be a good thing in 2012. Here we are on page 10 of this thread all because of a couple of small questions that some guy asked during an interview. I bet the OP secretly wants to hire the guy anyway. Heck, I bet the OP will hire the guy! Coffee leaves a bad taste in my mouth but I still drink it all the time.
Riddle me this......are you getting paid any more then the workers you are bashing because your "customers love you"? No, your company is reaping the rewards of that.
You are right. Due to globalism, there is a fundamental decoupling of the employee, employer relationship. There was a saying, 'whats good for GM is good for Detroit'. It's not that way anymore. There is no mutual benefit, it's a one-way totalitarian work environment.
Now as for myself I'd probably do a good job anyway. Once we all fall into the trap of 'I'm only doing my job', society degenerates. There is something to be said for doing the right thing, even if you aren't rewarded.
I personally think that if someone exceeds his/her expectations for the position, than it doesn't matter how few hours he puts in or how many vacation days he takes.
What happened to rewarding efficiency?
Face time means nothing if employees will just play games or chat on Facebook to do their time. In fact, unnecessarily long face time will sap away energy and needed rest for the next day's work.
You do know that there are people who work fewer hours but do the job better and more efficiently, don't you? As a manager, I don't want people putting in a lot of extra hours because it means one of 2 things:
Employee is inefficient and/or not getting proper training
Employee is overloaded so I need to cut back/re-distribute so they can actually have a life outside of work.
...obviously some people work fewer hours and get more done. That being said, asking what the minimum you have to do on the job in the interview is an indication that the candidate is not a hard worker. It doesn't guarantee it, but it definitely is an indicator.
Some jobs actually require someone to work overtime every once in a while, and I do not want an employee who would refuse to help during busy times.
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I have always been one of the most productive employees at every job Ive had. In most cases the only thing I got was more work. At one job, apparently my efficiency led them to believe that my job was simple and I could be replaced, since I got laid off.
The only exception to that is when I worked at a sub shop, where I actually ended up getting promoted in to a supervisor position. However, the added responsibility was clearly not worth the .25 more an hour I got for a raise, and I would have rather been doing alot less, for .25 less an hour.
Were you actually the most productive (your boss made that claim), or did you just think you were the most productive? If you got laid off instead of your co-workers, I find it hard to believe you were adding the most value to the company.
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I think the big problem "suit types" cant comprehend is the measurement of the value of front line employees. They think that because the job is relatively low skilled, and can be quickly trained, that the position has little to no value, and hiring a complete waste of space to fill the void is worth it because money could be better spent somewhere else.
This is very untrue, and just shows how ignorant you are of what goes into the day to day job of "suit types"
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Guess what, that "warm body", who could care less about his job, is busy losing hundreds of customers and destroying high priced equipment.
I wonder, at the end of the day, what costs more, that, or paying him a few bucks more an hour.
We have done those calculations, and we know what costs more. This is obviously part of the decision of what to pay someone.
This is also why formal processes and systems are in place. You don't give that low level employee the option to do fiscal harm.
He's been there eight years already so clearly they like him. He also might know the history of people who have worked under the OP.
Like I said he did a horrible job of framing the question but they are answers that most would like to know before starting a job.
No, they are not. If the question were "what is the median hours expected"? as opposed to minimum, perhaps.
But the first interview is hardly the place for it. One wants to show the employer why they are the best person for the job, not the worst. He did the latter.
No, they are not. If the question were "what is the median hours expected"? as opposed to minimum, perhaps.
But the first interview is hardly the place for it. One wants to show the employer why they are the best person for the job, not the worst. He did the latter.
Right...get a job offer first, then discuss hours/vacation/benefits/pay/etc. Start those negotiations after they have made the first move and offered you something.
No, they are not. If the question were "what is the median hours expected"? as opposed to minimum, perhaps.
But the first interview is hardly the place for it. One wants to show the employer why they are the best person for the job, not the worst. He did the latter.
I've already said he framed the question poorly. How many hours expected to work is a question everyone wants to know. You can also get that answer in a much better way.
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He did the latter.
