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Old 08-05-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Yeah, because as recent history has shown, student loans work out GREAT for most people...
Actually, they do.

The minority that takes out huge amounts of loans for useless for-profit schools is actually pretty small.
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Old 08-05-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Yeah, because as recent history has shown, student loans work out GREAT for most people...
They worked fine for me. As long as you don't get a worthless degree it shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 08-05-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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...I asked for a small raise. They refused to give it to me. So the next week I took my year's worth of cash register and customer service skills and landed a job at KMart making $4.30 an hour with a plan, even for part-timers, for regular wage increases and even more skill development.
See, today, your McDonald's manager would have snooped your social media and read your phone messages while you were working to figure out when your interview was, then scheduled you during your interview. A lot of managers even call parents now to ask them if their child is seeking a new position (and I don't just mean the parents of teenagers, I have seen managers do this to workers in their mid-20s).
When you didn't show, he would call KMart to let them know you were being fired for a no-call/no-show to try to make sure you don't get hired there. But instead of firing you, just cut your pay or hours as punishment for trying to leave.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Lets talk true rags to riches stories then.

J.K. Rowling. She wrote a book while living in a small place on welfare. That book went on to become the Harry Potter franchise. Ms Rowling is a billionaire now.

Richard Branson of the Virgin brand. He might have been born into a nice family but he ended up poor and working out his own way to make money.

Chris Gardner started life with a bad family situation. He ended up leaving home and eventually joined the Navy. He got married had a son and started selling medical supplies. That went south and his marriage ended. He was raising his son on the streets and found that stock brokers made good money. Using his son as an inspiration he was able to get his license to sell stocks. You may have seen the movie about him starring Will Smith.

H. Wayne Huizenga was in a home that had an abusive father for a parent. His situation was not very good in life. After a stint in the Army he ended up finding a truck and started hauling trash. That eventually became Waste Management. He also used the money he made to purchase a small chain of video stores called Blockbuster. He grew that business and merged it into another company he started called Viacom. Something about Wayne is he is a master of getting out of a deal. He had sold all of his holdings in Blockbuster long before the company failed.

Jim Carrey was a kid that had to work an 8 hour day while attending school just so he could help his family have the money to live in a camper. All of them that could worked for little of nothing. He ended up dropping out of school and was able to get a side job doing stand up. It did very well for him.

This list can go on and on about people that did what they needed to do to get out of poverty.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:28 PM
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That went south and his marriage ended.

This list can go on and on about people that did what they needed to do to get out of poverty.


Wait a minute,i thought marriage was the answer to getting out of poverty.

Since nobody answered mtyquestion,i will ask it again.

How does marriage elevate one from poverty to at least lower middle class?
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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See, today, your McDonald's manager would have snooped your social media and read your phone messages while you were working to figure out when your interview was, then scheduled you during your interview. A lot of managers even call parents now to ask them if their child is seeking a new position (and I don't just mean the parents of teenagers, I have seen managers do this to workers in their mid-20s).
When you didn't show, he would call KMart to let them know you were being fired for a no-call/no-show to try to make sure you don't get hired there. But instead of firing you, just cut your pay or hours as punishment for trying to leave.
Who really lives thinking the world works like this? very sad.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Anyone that thinks that the person operating the fry machine or cash register is just as important as the person that can manage a multibillion dollar multinational organization is always going to make minimum wage because that person is an imbecile.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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See, today, your McDonald's manager would have snooped your social media and read your phone messages while you were working to figure out when your interview was, then scheduled you during your interview. A lot of managers even call parents now to ask them if their child is seeking a new position (and I don't just mean the parents of teenagers, I have seen managers do this to workers in their mid-20s).
When you didn't show, he would call KMart to let them know you were being fired for a no-call/no-show to try to make sure you don't get hired there. But instead of firing you, just cut your pay or hours as punishment for trying to leave.
seems accurate.

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Anyone that thinks that the person operating the fry machine or cash register is just as important as the person that can manage a multibillion dollar multinational organization is always going to make minimum wage because that person is an imbecile.
But.....they work harder because I have seen them physically moving before. All CEOs do is make their secretaries get them coffee, play golf, drink wine, and occassionally go to meetings.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Anyone that thinks that the person operating the fry machine or cash register is just as important as the person that can manage a multibillion dollar multinational organization is always going to make minimum wage because that person is an imbecile.
but managing is soooo easy, they do nothing, just go to meetings all day and boss us little people around!!

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Old 08-05-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If you've spent 10 years tossing fries, you really need to stop, take a step back and re-evaluate your life choices. If you've been working at a fast food restaurant for a decade and you're not in management by that time, common sense should tell you that A. you're not cut out for advancement in the fast food industry and B. you really need to get your **** together if you're still stuck at an entry level job after putting 10 years in.
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