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Old 11-11-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It's a full time job and more. I only cringe when I see it in the title of someone's linkedin profile. It just seems so sad and defensive and desperate when someone does that.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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case in point. You people don't know crap. You know so little that you have no clue how little you know. It is funny, really. I'd love to see any of you be a SAHP or a working parent for a week and see how you'd do. You'd be in tears half way through the first day, I guarantee it.
LOL.
Your responses do nothing but prove their point. That's what's funny.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:39 PM
 
Location: here
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I don't want kids, so no thanks.

Strangely, you have to make a lot of decisions to have a kid.

Other than in cases of rape, obviously, which I don't think we are talking about here...you have to:

-Decide to have sex.
-Decide not to use birth control.
-Decide not to use emergency birth control.
-Decide not to have an abortion.
-Decide not to give the child up for adoption.

Once you have made all of those choices, why should everyone feel sorry for you all the time because you have kids?
Where did I ask you to feel sorry for me? I don't ask for anything from anyone. I do my work in a fraction of the time my coworkers do it in. I rarely call in sick. I have single, childless coworkers who have been chronically ill, injured multiple times, and who have taken 3+ weeks off for exotic vacations, while I've taken only a week's vacation at a time, and have never been out for more than one day at a time for my own or my kids' illness. I get stellar performance reviews. I cover for other people far more than anyone ever has to cover for me, so your (and everyone else's) claim that moms always ask for special treatment doesn't hold water. I know the truth. I live it.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:46 PM
 
Location: here
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LOL.
Your responses do nothing but prove their point. That's what's funny.
Excuse me for defending myself against a bunch of made up BS.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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I dare you to spend a week at home with a baby and a toddler, then come back here and tell us how easy it all is. Go ahead.
Been there, done that. And not just a week, either. I spent a summer (5 months actually) babysitting full time for a woman who worked - in other words, I was doing the daycare. And the kids were 9 months and 4 years old.

I think it was that in addition to all the other odd babysitting jobs I had done that decided me against having kids. I just realized it wasn't a job I liked or ever wanted to do for keeps. So I didn't. But yeah, it was trying to keep the house clean, changing the diapers, keeping track of the 4 year old, doing the laundry, making the beds, making the kids breakfast and lunch, cleaning up the vomit when it happened, getting them to take their naps, etc, etc.

Still and all, while that was a busy job and the most unpleasant one I've ever done, I don't think it was the hardest one in terms of stress. Granted, the kids weren't mine, but I took it seriously and read to them and and tried to treat them like I thought their mother would have. I just realized when it was over, it wasn't a job I wanted to do again, is all. Just like I wouldn't want to be an airline hostess or a marine biologist. It wasn't a job that appealed to me. But I think working at 7-11 was a lot harder and had a lot more stress to it.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Where did I ask you to feel sorry for me? I don't ask for anything from anyone. I do my work in a fraction of the time my coworkers do it in. I rarely call in sick. I have single, childless coworkers who have been chronically ill, injured multiple times, and who have taken 3+ weeks off for exotic vacations, while I've taken only a week's vacation at a time, and have never been out for more than one day at a time for my own or my kids' illness. I get stellar performance reviews. I cover for other people far more than anyone ever has to cover for me, so your (and everyone else's) claim that moms always ask for special treatment doesn't hold water. I know the truth. I live it.
Maybe you're the exception, but the bank I worked at was primarily staffed by women who were getting pregnant one after the other, and those of us not pregnant had to always cover for them. I still remember one girl who couldn't lift or bend and why they didn't find anything else for her to do, I don't know. But they kept her in the vault and the other two of us spent all our time doing our work and hers. She basically got paid for sitting around for 6 months and watching us. Yeah, that does get a little irksome.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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Excuse me for defending myself against a bunch of made up BS.
I don't know which post you're referring to, but several were personal anecdotes not made up BS . They stated their opinions, which just because you didn't agree with them doesn't make them BS. I don't understand why you're defending yourself when the posters were talking about stay at home moms in general and not you personally.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:00 PM
 
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Did they have 3 weeks of leave accumulated? Did they take leave without pay? If so then I dont see what the issues is. As far as people being sick and injured all the time that could be annoying.

Some people specifically dont have kids so they CAN take exotic vacations.

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Where did I ask you to feel sorry for me? I don't ask for anything from anyone. I do my work in a fraction of the time my coworkers do it in. I rarely call in sick. I have single, childless coworkers who have been chronically ill, injured multiple times, and who have taken 3+ weeks off for exotic vacations, while I've taken only a week's vacation at a time, and have never been out for more than one day at a time for my own or my kids' illness. I get stellar performance reviews. I cover for other people far more than anyone ever has to cover for me, so your (and everyone else's) claim that moms always ask for special treatment doesn't hold water. I know the truth. I live it.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Garbage, NC
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I don't know which post you're referring to, but several were personal anecdotes not made up BS . They stated their opinions, which just because you didn't agree with them doesn't make them BS. I don't understand why you're defending yourself when the posters were talking about stay at home moms in general and not you personally.
If you're not bowing down to the moms of the world, it's BS, and you don't understand, of course.

I chose to have a house and a big yard instead of living in an apartment, even though I know that apartment living is easier. I wanted a house and a yard -- even though I know it's more responsibility.

I wonder how annoyed my apartment-dwelling friends would be if I constantly interjected conversations -- online and off -- with complaints about it.

"Oh, you're lucky that you got to relax and watch movies with your kids this weekend. I'm never able to do fun stuff on the weekends because I always have to do yard work."

"You don't know what hard work is until you have a house and a big yard to take care of."

"Did you know that my value as a homeowner is like $100,000 a year? I do XX amount of hours of gardening work, XX amount of hours of interior design, XX amount of hours of construction work, XX amount of hours of janitorial work, etc. etc. etc. No one understands my value! You apartment dwellers just don't understand!!"

"Oh, you live in an apartment? Well, until you live in a house and have your own house and yard to take care of, you just don't understand. I bet you couldn't survive one weekend of pulling weeds, hauling mulch, cutting grass, painting your walls, etc. etc. etc. I'd love to see you laughing then!"
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Been there, done that. And not just a week, either. I spent a summer (5 months actually) babysitting full time for a woman who worked - in other words, I was doing the daycare. And the kids were 9 months and 4 years old.

I think it was that in addition to all the other odd babysitting jobs I had done that decided me against having kids. I just realized it wasn't a job I liked or ever wanted to do for keeps. So I didn't. But yeah, it was trying to keep the house clean, changing the diapers, keeping track of the 4 year old, doing the laundry, making the beds, making the kids breakfast and lunch, cleaning up the vomit when it happened, getting them to take their naps, etc, etc.

Still and all, while that was a busy job and the most unpleasant one I've ever done, I don't think it was the hardest one in terms of stress. Granted, the kids weren't mine, but I took it seriously and read to them and and tried to treat them like I thought their mother would have. I just realized when it was over, it wasn't a job I wanted to do again, is all. Just like I wouldn't want to be an airline hostess or a marine biologist. It wasn't a job that appealed to me. But I think working at 7-11 was a lot harder and had a lot more stress to it.
Most of the stress of parenthood is not physical, but emotional/mental. Watching someone else's kid is not the same thing. You get the physical part of it, yes, but not the emotional part. Did you worry that everything you were doing would affect how this child will turn out in 10 or 20 years? When a kid was sick, did your blood run cold at the (irrational) thought that he might have some deadly disease? (Yes, mothers worry about this... I still do this and my kids are teens!) The reason I have only two children is because I knew the worry and concern and mental exhaustion was not something I could increase and stay even remotely sane!

Of course, that doesn't only pertain to SAHMs. WOHMs have the same worries, and in many cases, they're magnified, because they're not the ones there all the time to make sure the baby is breathing, feel a cranky child's forehead with her lips to see if he's developing a fever, making sure that no one left a bead or a penny or a tiny lego where the baby could get to it. She has to trust someone else to do these things, which is extremely hard when the kids are small.

And I know that it's hard to understand, but the love a mother has for her child is different from the love a woman has for her husband or for her brother or for her dog. I did not understand this before I had children; it was like a whole new dimension of emotion opened up when I had my first baby, one that I had never felt before. Most mothers will agree with this. It's not an insult to those who don't have children; if you don't have a child, then there's no need to feel this mama-bear, protective-at-all-costs love. It's instinct, particularly when the kids are small and defenseless.
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