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Old 05-05-2017, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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When at work, you use a professional manner of speaking. If you can't handle that, then look for a job bagging groceries or collecting the shopping carts. Employers expect people to be professional. You aren't a teenage at home speaking rudely to your mother.
I'm still trying to comprehend what's wrong with saying "sure". In corporate America, of course, whatever the boss says is wrong, is wrong. But objectively I can't see it, unless it's spoken IRL with a deliberately dismissive or sarcastic tone of voice. Obviously that doesn't apply to the OP's case since the interchange happened via text.

To the OP: May I ask what kind of company it is and the general type of work you do there? Of course, I do understand if you prefer not to divulge.

 
Old 05-05-2017, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Maybe it's a generational thing? I'm in my early 30's and wouldn't think twice about the word sure. I probably wouldn't use it myself in a work situation, but I can't say for certainty. I'd probably be more likely to use it while talking, when hopefully the nuance can be conveyed by tone. I don't *think* I'd use it in a text message, but if someone did to me, I wouldn't assume it was sarcastic or anything. Maybe someone from an older generation has different associations with the word.
I turned 59 a couple of months ago and I wouldn't think twice about the word sure, either.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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when at work, you use a professional manner of speaking. If you can't handle that, then look for a job bagging groceries or collecting the shopping carts. Employers expect people to be professional. You aren't a teenage at home speaking rudely to your mother.

too funny!
 
Old 05-05-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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When at work, you use a professional manner of speaking. If you can't handle that, then look for a job bagging groceries or collecting the shopping carts. Employers expect people to be professional. You aren't a teenage at home speaking rudely to your mother.
She wasn't *at* work. She was aresponding to a text that arrived on her
personal time, at around 9:30PM.

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When at work, you use a professional manner of speaking. If you can't handle that, then look for a job bagging groceries or collecting the shopping carts. Employers expect people to be professional. You aren't a teenage at home speaking rudely to your mother.
She's also not a student in a 1950s private school where she's addressing Sister
Mary Gertrude. Nor is she in the military where everything must be "Sir-Yes-Sir!"
"Sure " isn't rude.

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Old 05-05-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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She wasn't *at* work. She was aresponding to a text that arrived on her
personal time, at around 9:30PM.

She's also not a student in a 1950s private school where she's addressing Sister
Mary Gertrude. Nor is she in the military where everything must be "Sir-Yes-Sir!"
"Sure " isn't rude.

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The boss makes the rules, you don't like it, start learning how to bag groceries.

When communicating about work with your supervisor it doesn't matter if it is 1 PM on a Sunday, the middle of the night, texting or face-to-face speaking. There is professionalism in communications. The people who don't get this, are the ones who management doesn't think highly of and don't get promoted, and end up letting go. But those are the same employees who come here and complain about how "I refuse to kiss butt" when they simply weren't being professional to begin with.

Get that application into the grocery stores now, you want to beat those summer kids looking for a job!

The OP is lucky, actually LUCKY the supervisor told them what the problem is so they have a chance to improve. But it won't happen, because it is the OP's poor attitude which is the problem.

Upper Management: "You think we should fire the OP?"
Boss: Sure
 
Old 05-05-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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The boss makes the rules, you don't like it, start learning how to bag groceries.

When communicating about work with your supervisor it doesn't matter if it is 1 PM on a Sunday, the middle of the night, texting or face-to-face speaking. There is professionalism in communications. The people who don't get this, are the ones who management doesn't think highly of and don't get promoted, and end up letting go. But those are the same employees who come here and complain about how "I refuse to kiss butt" when they simply weren't being professional to begin with.

Get that application into the grocery stores now, you want to beat those summer kids looking for a job!

The OP is lucky, actually LUCKY the supervisor told them what the problem is so they have a chance to improve. But it won't happen, because it is the OP's poor attitude which is the problem.

Upper Management: "You think we should fire the OP?"
Boss: Sure
As was stated previously, the OP's boss is lucky she got any answer in the affirmative given the timing of the text.


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Old 05-05-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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As was stated previously, the OP's boss is lucky she got any answer in the affirmative given the timing of the text.


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No, the OP is lucky they still have a job. For the time being. Someone who pays your bills doesn't have to be lucky, you have to be lucky if they continue to sign your checks.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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No, the OP is lucky they still have a job. For the time being. Someone who pays your bills doesn't have to be lucky, you have to be lucky if they continue to sign your checks.
So she's a slave, rather than an employee, and expected to be on the clock 24/7?

Nope.

She used a standard English word commonly understood to mean assent. The boss happened to not like it and said so, and the OP said she would not use it again in that context. The OP then posted a thread to vent about this ridiculous episode with a micromanaging moron of a boss and there's a pile on of criticism.

People are weird.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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So she's a slave, rather than an employee, and expected to be on the clock 24/7?

Nope.

She used a standard English word commonly understood to mean assent. The boss happened to not like it and said so, and the OP said she would not use it again in that context. The OP then posted a thread to vent about this ridiculous episode with a micromanaging moron of a boss and there's a pile on of criticism.

People are weird.
No, the OP is an employee and when communicating with the boss about work, you conduct your communications in a professional manner. How is that being a slave?

Nothing ridiculous about it, other than the OP doesn't know how to communicate like a professional.
 
Old 05-05-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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No, the OP is an employee and when communicating with the boss about work, you conduct your communications in a professional manner. How is that being a slave?

Nothing ridiculous about it, other than the OP doesn't know how to communicate like a professional.

How is "Sure" automatically unprofessional in your eyes? It seems to me that body language and/or voice inflection could be the only issue. But apparently that isn't what the boss complained about. What word or words do you suggest would be more professional without groveling (which is not professional)?
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