Atlanta's national status (Boston: commuting, metro, areas)

[architect77]

Those 100 mile radius numbers are bogus. Boston doesn't have 10 million within a 100 mile radius. SF doesn't have 10.26 million within a 100 mile radius.

This arbitrary 100-mile radius has been argued to death here on city-data back in 2010, but all of the smaller metros in upstate SC and central NC do in fact give Charlotte the distinction of being at the center of the 6th or 7th most populous area in the country with about 7 million people.

The ranking probably goes like this:

1)New York
2)LA
3)Chicago
4)D.C.
5)SF
6)Central NC/Charlotte

Miami up to West Palm is too linear for all its metro population to fall within 100 miles.
Philly isn't listed due to much of its population being already counted under NYC/ DC-Baltimore's radii.
Dallas, Houston and Atlanta's 100 mile populations all probably max out at between 6-7 million.

[Indentured Servant]

Originally Posted by architect77

Those 100 mile radius numbers are bogus. Boston doesn't have 10 million within a 100 mile radius. SF doesn't have 10.26 million within a 100 mile radius.

This arbitrary 100-mile radius has been argued to death here on city-data back in 2010, but all of the smaller metros in upstate SC and central NC do in fact give Charlotte the distinction of being at the center of the 6th or 7th most populous area in the country with about 7 million people.

The ranking probably goes like this:

1)New York
2)LA
3)Chicago
4)D.C.
5)SF
6)Central NC/Charlotte

Miami up to West Palm is too linear for all its metro population to fall within 100 miles.
Philly isn't listed due to much of its population being already counted under NYC/ DC-Baltimore's radii.
Dallas, Houston and Atlanta's 100 mile populations all probably max out at between 6-7 million.

Ok.....Boston does not have 10 million people in 100 mile radius. Your word is all the proof I need.

[Indentured Servant]

Ok folks.....I found a source database online where one simply has to enter a central zip code plus a mile radius and the site will generate all the zip codes that fall in that zone and if you scroll to the bottom it will show the total population count at the bottom.

For example. For Detroit I picked the 48201 zip code, which is essentially downtown/midtown, and I did a 100 mile. I then entered 30303 for Atlanta for a similar radius. I also found the zip for downtown Boston....and yep.....10 million people in 100 mile radius.

Here is the site.....its very simple. Its the blue box in the upper left portion of the page when it renders.

SearchBug - ZIP Codes in a Radius

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by architect77

Those 100 mile radius numbers are bogus. Boston doesn't have 10 million within a 100 mile radius. SF doesn't have 10.26 million within a 100 mile radius.

This arbitrary 100-mile radius has been argued to death here on city-data back in 2010, but all of the smaller metros in upstate SC and central NC do in fact give Charlotte the distinction of being at the center of the 6th or 7th most populous area in the country with about 7 million people.

The ranking probably goes like this:

1)New York
2)LA
3)Chicago
4)D.C.
5)SF
6)Central NC/Charlotte

Miami up to West Palm is too linear for all its metro population to fall within 100 miles.
Philly isn't listed due to much of its population being already counted under NYC/ DC-Baltimore's radii.
Dallas, Houston and Atlanta's 100 mile populations all probably max out at between 6-7 million.

your ranking is pretty bogus. if you center it in gaffney, SC, which is about halfway between charlotte and greenville, you get this:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

5.5 million.

if you center it in charlotte you get this:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

6.3 million.

if you center it in salisbury, halfway between charlotte and greenville you get this:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

6 million.

now, let's center it in atlanta:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

6.7 million

san francisco:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

10.2 million

boston:

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

10 million.

even fudging it i can't get the numbers to go in charlotte's way even over atlanta.

[Big Aristotle]

Originally Posted by afonega1

King Center is not downtown?WHAT?Youre crazy!!LOL!!
Your assertion is just that:YOURS.

37million people visit downtown Atlanta yearly.
The top attractions in Denver vs Atlanta are not even close to the amount that visit those in Atlanta.
And how do you penalize Atlanta because it has more than one CBD?Downtown Atlanta is a large areanot just 5POINTS!!All those attractions around C.O.P. are always packed with people.Denver WISHES they could have a park like COP.,or World of Coke,Aquarium and soon the Civil Rights Museum.

Denver is like San Diego.A great place to live but unless you are an outdoors person,its boring.Nothing stylish or sexy about it.No passion.Just a good place to live and visit but nothing that says come back.

As far a "sordid" racial history goes,then you should apply that to NYC or Chicago before Atlanta.Riots,police racism,neighborhoods you cant if you're black.Denver has no real diversity as Atlanta does so it has not had to work through those issues.Denver is a great city but its far from anything like Atlanta

I like Atlanta and it has more attractions than Denver, but Atlanta has nothing close in comparison to the 16th Street Mall for pedestrian activity. The casino areas are really cool, access to the skiing/mountains (absolutely stunning), old west attractions, etc - and it doesn't get as cold as people think, really nice weather. No, it's not as "diverse" but boring? hell-to-the-no!...lived there for a year and tempted to remain if not for family back in the south.

[Indentured Servant]

Originally Posted by Big Aristotle

I like Atlanta and it has more attractions than Denver, but Atlanta has nothing close in comparison to the 16th Street Mall for pedestrian activity. The casino areas are really cool, access to the skiing/mountains (absolutely stunning), old west attractions, etc - and it doesn't get as cold as people think, really nice weather. No, it's not as "diverse" but boring? hell-to-the-no!...lived there for a year and tempted to remain if not for family back in the south.

I think Denver, pound per pound, offers more than Atlanta.....I think Minneapolis does also. Overall, however, I think Atlanta offers more....or used to. In terms of economics Atlanta used to out perform the national economy as a whole, however, the last two years it has underperformed the national economy.

The rap I hear about Denver is that it is a very racist place. I have heard this from a cross section of people.

[architect77]

Well this ought to make y'all happy then. Charlotte's own Chamber of Commerce website lists Atlanta as having 8.3 million people living within 100 miles, way above Charlotte. If it's true, then in all of the rest of Georgia, the largest state east of the Mississippi, there are only about: GA Pop. 2010 (9.7 million)- 8.3 million= 1.4 million people. Sound correct to you?
Charlotte Chamber - Strategic Location

And as for Charlotte central NC's 7million or so people, that isn't including Raleigh/Durham, whose CSA is 1.7 million.

As for the accuracy of any of these numbers, how is it that NYC's 100 mile radius population is stated at 15 million, the census bureau states its CSA at 21.5 million, but supposedly 22 milllion people live within 100 miles of the Indian Pt. nuclear facility?

[architect77]

Regarding Boston's 100 mile population supposedly 10,000,000:

2011 MA Population 6.5 million
2011 RI Population 1 million
2011 NH Population 1.3 million

So within 100 miles of Boston, Western Mass. population must be subtracted from the 6.5 million, and then all you have left is the northeast most corner of CT and a little bit of Maine to account for about 1.5 million people. Sound plausible? I lived in Boston and I'm not buying it.

[qc dreamin]

Originally Posted by architect77

Well this ought to make y'all happy then. Charlotte's own Chamber of Commerce website lists Atlanta as having 8.3 million people living within 100 miles, way above Charlotte. If it's true, then in all of the rest of Georgia, the largest state east of the Mississippi, there are only about: GA Pop. 2010 (9.7 million)- 8.3 million= 1.4 million people. Sound correct to you?
Charlotte Chamber - Strategic Location

And as for Charlotte central NC's 7million or so people, that isn't including Raleigh/Durham, whose CSA is 1.7 million.

As for the accuracy of any of these numbers, how is it that NYC's 100 mile radius population is stated at 15 million, the census bureau states its CSA at 21.5 million, but supposedly 22 milllion people live within 100 miles of the Indian Pt. nuclear facility?

Lol. What is it about Charlotte that rubs some ATL posters the wrong way?

[Indentured Servant]

Originally Posted by architect77

Well this ought to make y'all happy then. Charlotte's own Chamber of Commerce website lists Atlanta as having 8.3 million people living within 100 miles, way above Charlotte. If it's true, then in all of the rest of Georgia, the largest state east of the Mississippi, there are only about: GA Pop. 2010 (9.7 million)- 8.3 million= 1.4 million people. Sound correct to you?
Charlotte Chamber - Strategic Location

And as for Charlotte central NC's 7million or so people, that isn't including Raleigh/Durham, whose CSA is 1.7 million.

As for the accuracy of any of these numbers, how is it that NYC's 100 mile radius population is stated at 15 million, the census bureau states its CSA at 21.5 million, but supposedly 22 milllion people live within 100 miles of the Indian Pt. nuclear facility?

No offense....but hype seems to be endemic to the Southeast region.

ZIP Codes in a Radius Lookup

NY NY Radius 100 mile.

Total population in radius = 28,162,990
Total number of businesses in radius = 1,287,299

I am not sure were you got 15 million from

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