Braves reveal all-star restaurants for SunTrust Park and name for mixed-use development (Atlanta: cost of, moving to)

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by viningsgt

Yes, the Marta bus stations are just packed with people leaving VAHI and West Midtown restaurants and bars (sarcasm).

It's important to be clear that VAHI and West Midtown have MARTA bus service as an option, and Cobb doesn't.

[evannole]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

It's important to be clear that VAHI and West Midtown have MARTA bus service as an option, and Cobb doesn't.

Completely wrong, but whatever. CCT is not great, but it's also not much different than MARTA bus service.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I mean, gee whiz, look at the Turner field area -- that is hardly a walkability nirvana.

Likewise with the new Falcons stadium. These new projects can help but they are not a cure all for decades of prior development.

Yeah, stadiums are the problem. A government backed mixed-use development is a nice attempt to off-set some of the damage. But will not be enough to fix the damage done.

Originally Posted by viningsgt

probably has more to do with the resurgence of East Atlanta in general (Beltline etc.) than Turner Field.

Yes, Context / location matters. Stadiums are a negative on attracting good development. Some redevelopment around Turner probably would have happened eventually, but we will be seeing more development sooner now that the stadium is leaving.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I think we're saying the same thing, cq. The Braves development will provide a lot of walkability options within the development. These didn't exist before.

It will take longer for other areas to develop more walkability. I mean, gee whiz, look at the Turner field area -- that is hardly a walkability nirvana.

Likewise with the new Falcons stadium. These new projects can help but they are not a cure all for decades of prior development.

Of course there was no walkablilty before, it was a lake surrounded by woods. The area is nothing but superblocks, which makes walking difficult and not pleasant.
Also, where will these visitors park if the development plans on having less parking than Turner Field currently has?

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by evannole

Completely wrong, but whatever. CCT is not great, but it's also not much different than MARTA bus service.

Yes it is. MARTA has a live arrival app, CCT does not. This allows users to minimize the time they are waiting for a bus. CCT users can to guess, hope they and the bus show up on time.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Yeah, stadiums are the problem. A government backed mixed-use development is a nice attempt to off-set some of the damage. But will not be enough to fix the damage done.

Yes, Context / location matters. Stadiums are a negative on attracting good development. Some redevelopment around Turner probably would have happened eventually, but we will be seeing more development sooner now that the stadium is leaving.

I don't think stadiums per se are the problem.

Many college stadiums (which are often much larger) fit neatly into thoroughly walkable, highly developed environments.

As usual, it's how it's done that counts.

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[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Of course there was no walkablilty before, it was a lake surrounded by woods. The area is nothing but superblocks, which makes walking difficult and not pleasant.

So this new situation will offer major improvements, no?

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by JPD

Wrong. Georgia State station is within easy walking distance. It's true that there's no Turner Field station, but false to say you can't take a train there. You can most definitely take a train there, just as you can take a train to L5P, Piedmont Park, and any number of other major destinations that don't have their own dedicated MARTA station.

Bingo. Interesting how not having a train station 3 feet away somehow means "omg no transit access!"

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by arjay57

You can take the train to a within a little over a mile to the stadium but that's a hefty walk for a lot of folks.

One mile? Odds are they'd walk just as far inside the stadium.

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by David1502

Sun Trust Park will be a high density pedestrian oriented addition to the existing suburban landscape.