California is a Failed State. Why Are You Still Here? (San Diego: sale, 2013)

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Not a problem ... would never happen ... 99.9% of the population couldn’t ever handle the simplistic, minimalism required to live on a boat (Russian oligarch yachts excluded from generalization).

But that’s not the only way to get by, saving the interest on a mortgage while accumulating enough dough to pay cash price only if one chooses to buy a home. ... Then again, 99% of people aren’t willing to live simple enough to save by any method ... *shrug*. I couldn’t care less. Not advising. Just commenting: real estate isn’t the only way, nor the best or fastest, or easiest way to develop a good net worth nut.

True it is just one of many. If a person makes a really good choice, usually by accident, he may quickly be a millionaire. Such is rare. The key is being wise in the use of money, saving as much as you can and doing intelligent planning for what you need, not simply what a person desires. The ones who do not do this, are the usual complainers.

[Huckleberry3911948]

Because winter in Chicago is not that much fun?

[BPMC]

Work, family and property. As I age, the first becomes less relevant, the second gets smaller and the third's equity bankrolls my inevitable move east.

I've done extensive travelling, but every one of my 57 years have been spent as a resident of this state. It's time for a change.

[rosebud49]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

Because winter in Chicago is not that much fun?

[stone26]

Originally Posted by GBPACKERS1200

My point was that the people in CA who supported and continue to support absurd lockdown policies are insulated from any negative economic impact due to their privileged position in society. You people are so disconnected from the reality that the average middle class person or recent immigrant to CA is facing.

I am an average middle class person. While I am not happy about the restrictions, I understand why we need them.

[CA4Now]

California is a huge state, with all manner of seasonal changes, including autumnal foliage, snowfall and spring wildflowers. So that’s the first mistake people make when they talk about Californians — compressing 164,000 square miles, 20 climate zones and pretty much every demographic you can think of into two sets of stereotypes: beachified, hug-addicted, Tinseltown-centric Southern California, where everything is fake; and hippified, hacky-sacking, crunchy Northern California, where everyone plays guitar.

Every place is perilous in one way or another and, while California must begin to tackle fire prevention with more seriousness and resources, it is the state I love best. The glamour, the wackiness, the obsession with food trucks and crystals, the weird relationship with time and the unorthodox definition of RSVP are all real. But so is the unaffected grit, the endurance, the understanding that nature knows no boundaries — and that the ones we erect can vanish with one jolt, one gust of wind.

California fires debunk La La Land stereotype. We’re tougher than you think:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...than-you-think

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by nairbdes

• Family and friends all here

This is always understated in these conversations. Who is willing to uproot themselves from their entire social circle, abandoning everyone they associate with on a regular basis? It seems weird to me but I suppose it happens.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by joosoon

This is always understated in these conversations. Who is willing to uproot themselves from their entire social circle, abandoning everyone they associate with on a regular basis? It seems weird to me but I suppose it happens.

In today’s world it’s not really abandoning people you know though. I’m a Ca native who was more miserable living in Ca every year so I did a pro and con list and the cons won so after my dad passed I cashed out everything and moved to Az. I still talk and text with friends and family every day. I go back to Ca about once a month, friends visit me here, just last weekend me and friends stayed in a hotel in Scottsdale. I’m also making new friends here in Az. It’s really not that weird and happens every day.

I’m happy to be out of Ca and my life is better in every way.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by joosoon

This is always understated in these conversations. Who is willing to uproot themselves from their entire social circle, abandoning everyone they associate with on a regular basis? It seems weird to me but I suppose it happens.

I agree that it’s rare. I have a friend that wanted to marry his girlfriend. She hated California and moved back to the Midwest. He said there was no way he was leaving his family and network of friends. They ended up parting ways.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Mike930

I agree that it’s rare. I have a friend that wanted to marry his girlfriend. She hated California and moved back to the Midwest. He said there was no way he was leaving his family and network of friends. They ended up parting ways.

The cost to rent a uhaul out of Ca is 3x What it’s costs to bring it into Ca. Places like Phoenix, Boise, Austin Tenn have 10 Ca bidders for every house for sale there now. But since you know one guy that wouldn’t leave his friends for a future wife and life outside a Ca it’s rare?