Travel to Canada (June 2021) (appointed, assess, delivery)

[UrbanLuis]

Originally Posted by begratto

You can, but most of the time I need to pay inside the gas station and can't do it at the pump.

Thanks for the reply.

[Trojan1982]

BC's reopening plan, summarized:

Effective immediately (May 25):
- Indoor dining resumes
- Indoor personal gatherings of up to 5 people or one other household allowed - can have friends over
- Outdoor organized gatherings up to 50 people
- Indoor organized gatherings up to 10 people (e.g. weddings/funerals)
- Indoor low intensity group exercise resumes
- Outdoor games/practices for team sports resume

Step 2 (June 15):
- Outdoor personal gatherings up to 50 people
- Indoor organized gatherings up to 50 people (most likely will be when in-person religious services resume)
- Provincial travel restrictions lifted - can go anywhere within BC
- Liquor served until midnight
- Up to 50 spectators at outdoor sporting events

Step 3 (July 1):
- Return to normal for personal gatherings, indoor or outdoor
- Fairs and festivals allowed
- Canada-wide travel allowed
- Bingo halls, casinos, nightclubs reopen
- Limited indoor spectators for sporting events

Step 4 (September 7):
- Basically a full reopening

Dr. Henry also noted mask requirements will be lifted as part of Step 3, but will continue to be recommended

[Zoisite]

I'm getting the impression that a number of people are thinking that if they are fully vaccinated that it means that non-vaccinated people they encounter will be protected from getting the virus from them.

That's not how it works guys. The vaccine isn't a cure, it's an immunization. The vaccinations you get may immunize YOU but your vaccinations can't protect unvaccinated people from getting the virus from you.

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[cdnirene]

Originally Posted by Zoisite

I'm getting the impression that a number of people are thinking that if they are fully vaccinated that it means that non-vaccinated people they encounter will be protected from getting the virus from them.

That's not how it works guys. The vaccine isn't a cure, it's an immunization. The vaccinations you get may immunize YOU but your vaccinations can't protect unvaccinated people from getting the virus from you.

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They don’t care. It’s all about them and what they want.

Positivity rate in Manitoba in 14%. In Winnipeg it’s 16%. ICU patients continue to be shipped to various cities in Ontario for treatment… in at least one case, as far as Ottawa!

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by edwardsyzzurphands

Bru, trust me I believe all these "Rah Rah, FREEDUMB" types are all about overcompensating for their shriveled members and low sex drive, but Trudeau is hardly following the science. due to having been vaccin
Countless, peer-reviewed, published articles and data support how safe you are to move about as a fully vaccinated person and he has not caught up.

I plan on visiting family in Toronto in a few weeks. Even as a fully vaccinated person, along with my wife (weeks in and currently at peak efficacy), We still have to quarantine for 2 weeks, test on Day 1 and 8, along with a daily check-in and possible police visits to the residence we are staying. This not as a tourist, but a Canadian citizen.

I will comply with the rules, but how on earth are they based on current science?

I can't find fault with your assessment of those infantile, so called, rugged individualist "we don need no stink'n badges" types.


However, he's heeding the science based advice BECAUSE they are based upon the vaccination rate of Canadians not yet vaccinated.

The peer reviewed studies are dealing with how safe the vaccinated person might be to move about but, are not dealing with the carrier aspect of a vaccinated person transmitting the virus to those who have not yet been vaccinated.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by UrbanLuis

Just curious, can you use Canadian debit cards at a US gas station?

Even using a credit card is very annoying. The pump asks you for a zip code (associated with your card) which of course as a Canadian you don't have.

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by Trojan1982

BC's reopening plan, summarized:

Effective immediately........

Here's the full article with more information: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...p2ztwkJTr3ar-4

Everyone should take note that BC's restart plan is entirely contingent on case counts dropping, hospitalizations declining and 70 per cent of the population getting vaccinated. It also relies on the assumption that variants do not significantly alter health outcomes for COVID-19 patients or the efficacy of vaccines.
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[Natnasci]

Originally Posted by edwardsyzzurphands

Bru, trust me I believe all these "Rah Rah, FREEDUMB" types are all about overcompensating for their shriveled members and low sex drive, but Trudeau is hardly following the science.

Countless, peer-reviewed, published articles and data support how safe you are to move about as a fully vaccinated person and he has not caught up.

I plan on visiting family in Toronto in a few weeks. Even as a fully vaccinated person, along with my wife (weeks in and currently at peak efficacy), We still have to quarantine for 2 weeks, test on Day 1 and 8, along with a daily check-in and possible police visits to the residence we are staying. This not as a tourist, but a Canadian citizen.

I will comply with the rules, but how on earth are they based on current science?

Pretty sure Trudeau is following the advice of Dr. Tam, Canada's Chief Public Health Officer.

https://www.who.int/about/who_reform...heresa-tam/en/

I know if I were PM, I would. Going rogue on your Chief Health Officer when you aren't even remotely qualified to make health decisions is not what a smart person would do. We have recent evidence on how well that worked south of us.

So perhaps take up your thoughts with Dr. Tam. That's a conversation I would like to hear

[netwit]

Originally Posted by Zoisite

I'm getting the impression that a number of people are thinking that if they are fully vaccinated that it means that non-vaccinated people they encounter will be protected from getting the virus from them.

That's not how it works guys. The vaccine isn't a cure, it's an immunization. The vaccinations you get may immunize YOU but your vaccinations can't protect unvaccinated people from getting the virus from you.

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Originally Posted by cdnirene

They don’t care. It’s all about them and what they want.

Positivity rate in Manitoba in 14%. In Winnipeg it’s 16%. ICU patients continue to be shipped to various cities in Ontario for treatment… in at least one case, as far as Ottawa!

Originally Posted by BruSan

I can't find fault with your assessment of those infantile, so called, rugged individualist "we don need no stink'n badges" types.


However, he's heeding the science based advice BECAUSE they are based upon the vaccination rate of Canadians not yet vaccinated.

The peer reviewed studies are dealing with how safe the vaccinated person might be to move about but, are not dealing with the carrier aspect of a vaccinated person transmitting the virus to those who have not yet been vaccinated.

I wanted to give you all reps but I have to pass the love around a bit more.

[netwit]

I can't even imagine how hard it would be to have a loved one in the hospital without being able to see them, never mind that they're moved hundreds of miles away.