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Old 09-06-2010, 06:35 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Don't put words in my mouth. For starters, I never said that. I specifically said otherwise. My exact words were: "I would never suggest that it's better to be an agnostic than to be a Christian." Secondly, I don't write people off as "lost" the way a lot of Christians do. It's not over till it's over, and I'll leave the writing people off as "lost" to God.
Ok then. Meow.

 
Old 09-06-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Ok then. Meow.
I like dogs, too. I have two of them.
 
Old 09-06-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I like dogs, too. I have two of them.
I have two as well. One of them pooped in the house today so I'm not exactly thrilled w/ them atm.

Sorry if I insulted you, that wasn't my intention.
 
Old 09-06-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I have two as well. One of them pooped in the house today so I'm not exactly thrilled w/ them atm.

Sorry if I insulted you, that wasn't my intention.
Don't think a thing of it. I am extra forgiving of animal people.
 
Old 09-06-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Actually the bible was not of divine origin but simply a compilation of the passed down tales of the various people.
Some of the other Holy books are to be from divine sources. The Gita ,Vedas and so forth.
 
Old 09-06-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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And whenever a person say's she is no longer a Mormon, that's one fewer people telling me I don't worship the "real Christ".



I can tell you ... that we are not interested with finding favor with man, but with God. Hopefully other readers will come to know that those who do not stay within the Bible, that they're rejecting God:
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith andfollow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." 1 Timothy 4:1

What message will people abandon:

Romans 3:28
"For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law."

That is why Mike says: "you do NOT believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. But rather you have believed in a false Jesus who does not exist and cannot save."

Romans 3:28 ... is divinely inspired and revealed

Give us the rest of the passage, Twin.

I wonder why NOBODY in the Christian community let folks know what Timothy was speaking about when they say "doctrines of demons."

The doctrines of demons is a RELIGIOUS SPIRIT pretending to be the light. It takes away the joy and freedom given to those in Christ and locks them back into the system, mostly for political (beastly) reasons.

I Timothy 4:3. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

WOW!!!! Stopping people from eating certain foods and marrying is a demonic doctrine.

YES!
 
Old 09-07-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Current thinking is that Hebrew folklore began to be collected and the Bible began to be written about 922 BC. This would be long after the death of Moses.
Actually it's closer to 700-600 BC and we all KNOW Moses didn't write a darn thing in the bible or anwhere else for that matter.
 
Old 09-07-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Give us the rest of the passage, Twin.

I wonder why NOBODY in the Christian community let folks know what Timothy was speaking about when they say "doctrines of demons."

The doctrines of demons is a RELIGIOUS SPIRIT pretending to be the light. It takes away the joy and freedom given to those in Christ and locks them back into the system, mostly for political (beastly) reasons.

I Timothy 4:3. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

WOW!!!! Stopping people from eating certain foods and marrying is a demonic doctrine.

YES!
I was but now I'm glad I didn't if you conclude that marriage and abstaining from certian foods are political references.... carry on.
 
Old 09-08-2010, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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No. There are a number of prophecies never fulfilled by Jesus or any of the other messiah candidate. For example, the Jews have not yet been gathered back ro the land of Israel (Is 43), universal peace hasn't been established (Is 2:4), God didn't become king over the whole world (Zec 14.9), and a messiah has never sat of the throne of Israel.

>>There is no such thing as a messiah candidate. There is but one Messiah, and that is Jesus Christ. <<

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On the contrary. Even Acts of the Apostles, chapter 5, mentions a few.

35Then he said to them, ‘Fellow-Israelites,* consider carefully what you propose to do to these men. 36For some time ago Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined him; but he was killed, and all who followed him were dispersed and disappeared. 37After him Judas the Galilean rose up at the time of the census and got people to follow him; he also perished, and all who followed him were scattered."
 
Old 09-08-2010, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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>>The Jews are partially gathered back in the land in a state of unbelief. They will be fully gathered back into the land in a state of belief when Jesus returns at the end of the Tribulation. I already stated this in the other post. I referred to the prophecies which have been fulfilled. There remain many more to be fulfilled upon Christs return. <<

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Ah yes. The old explanation that although Jesus didn't fulfill all the prophecies of the messiah, he'll do that during the second coming. (That's a safe claim to make since it can't be proven or disproven).

Jesus claimed that he would return during the lifetime of his immediate followers. But, in fact, he didn't.


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