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HotinAZ sin is sin . The scriptures tell us all have sinned and because of sin death passed to all men . Romans 5 verse 12
HotinAZ you are digging yourself into a bigger hole.
You ask me do i understand , like i keep pointing out to you , you are talking codswallop and these Aha moments you are having are not from the Holy Spirit.
To cap it there's a law within all of us and just like the scripture says we are without excuse.
Indeed when gentiles who do not have the law do by nature the things required by the law, they show the requirements of the law are written on their hearts Romans 2 verse 14,15.
Will you know submit to the authority of the scripture ?
Do you believe that death, physical death, existed before the fall?
How do you feel about this?
For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Obviously...all men is not universally applied in Rom 5:12, otherwise Paul is contradicting himself in the very next verse.
Hence, he states...nevertheless...death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression.
Is Adam to Moses the ONLY line of mankind, or is Paul making a point towards those who were bound in covenant, under law?
To answer you in all honesty i am not sure , i do know that in Genesis the Lord told Adam and Eve to replenish the earth, so from this verse i would say quite possibly.
The thing is i live in this replenished earth and not the one before it,what i do know is that through one man's sin, death through sin spread to all men .
First...there is no partition between them any more.
Second.....
For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Now read Acts:
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Why is Paul saying they must repent then?
Because he is preaching them the gospel.....the LAW.
The LAW - The GOSPEL
Read:
Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Now read:
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.
ALL - is all those who were under the LAW - Those of the line of Adam.
Those in covenantal relationship with God.
The Gospel is the fulfillment of the LAW from Adam, to Moses to Christ.
Through Abraham we are told that this promise is granted by faith.
Your mistake is you think Adam is the father of all mankind, in that he is the biological head of mankind, which he is not.
Death passed to all mankind ? yes or no .
And there was a law , and it's requirements are written on our hearts Romans 2 verse 14 .
If sin was not imputed without the law how you believe ,why did those without the law die ? . The scriptures teach clearly we die because of sin (Death through sin) Romans 5 verse 12
To answer you in all honesty i am not sure , i do know that in Genesis the Lord told Adam and Eve to replenish the earth, so from this verse i would say quite possibly.
The thing is i live in this replenished earth and not the one before it,what i do know is that through one man's sin, death through sin spread to all men .
The correct translation is fill. "Replenish" came from the Old Earth and Framework views and the heavy influence they had on the translators at the time.
Sciota i never said it was , but i do believe both are a result of sin.
Do you have a scriptural reference that says sin caused physical death?
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