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many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you willstand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’
Salavation out of the lake of fire which is the 2nd death
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you willstand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’
Many will be thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death.
But everyone who is thrown into the lake of fire will be saved out of it.
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
(when does the door get shut? when the master OF THE HOUSE has SHUT the door.) Jesus is STILL building that House even as of right now. For that house is His House the Temple of God. So this is definately a reference to the time when Christ has established the HOUSE. We know that when that door is shut will be the reign of Christ for 1000 years. At this time there is PAYMENT for sins.
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Judgement being cast and the realization of where one stood in regards to their Faith:
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Something anew here we can see that the DOOR must have been reopened:
Luk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Luk 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.
So what is LAST is actually what is FIRST (the Chosen) and then those that were FIRST shall now be last (the unchosen).
many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you willstand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’
They will add to His words, or manipulate them beyond belief, or believe some other false prophet. They think all mankind will be like Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. Sadly, they just cannot see that this is not the case.
Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
(when does the door get shut? when the master OF THE HOUSE has SHUT the door.) Jesus is STILL building that House even as of right now. For that house is His House the Temple of God. So this is definately a reference to the time when Christ has established the HOUSE. We know that when that door is shut will be the reign of Christ for 1000 years. At this time there is PAYMENT for sins.
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Judgement being cast and the realization of where one stood in regards to their Faith:
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Something anew here we can see that the DOOR must have been reopened:
Luk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Luk 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.
So what is LAST is actually what is FIRST (the Chosen) and then those that were FIRST shall now be last (the unchosen).
Yea, I am sure this isn't talking about the order of the resurrection of BELIEVERS,,,, who had faith.
Salvation out of the lake of fire which is the 2nd death
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you willstand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’
SALVATION OUT OF THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH
Here's a snippet from J. Preston Eby's THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH
"To quote the timely words of Ray Prinzing once more:
We see the victory of the ultimate, a complete triumph over death, first death, second death, ALL DEATH to ultimately be brought to an end."
Shhh, Finn. Don't use Jesus' words on them. Use Paul's, as they are easy to understand. Ask Peter this point. Why would they need to believe our King.
So instead you choose to believe that the apostle Paul (who wrote a majority of the bible - the word of God) contradicts Jesus' words? I don't get it. Is that the point you are trying to make? The apostle Paul was wrong?
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