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Do you understand what "reading a text literally" means? Again....I will ask: Do you honestly think that when I say "it's raining cats and dogs" that poodles and felines will literally be falling out of the sky? Or do you understand the concept of figure of speech, and that the person speaking or writing may not mean EXACTLY what is on the text, or what comes out of their mouth?
Has it occurred to you that something written in the OT was something that was written to the Jewish people 3000 years ago and that by believing it, we are not required to actually DO that now?
Your point brings out another factoid about those who oppose the truth found in scriptures that God hates ... it's purposeful obfuscation.
The same people who mock the Bible as "the written in ink" \ "YOUR interpretation" yet points to "written in the heart" purposefully forgets that God said:
"I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts."
they can't get around it no matter what their daily talking points bulletin has it. For God also stated:
" Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercyon the testimony of two or three witnesses.
How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?"
Do you understand what "reading a text literally" means? Again....I will ask: Do you honestly think that when I say "it's raining cats and dogs" that poodles and felines will literally be falling out of the sky? Or do you understand the concept of figure of speech, and that the person speaking or writing may not mean EXACTLY what is on the text, or what comes out of their mouth?
I am sure Trout understands . . . but clearly you do not. A figure of speech is NOT a literal reading.
Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?"
And God still loves the one who deserves to be punished. His love always remains just as a parent's love for a child never changes, even when the child has to be punished. He knew that they would do this and yet He still loves them. God bless and peace.
Warden, what do you do with these bible passages? Do you revere them equally to other passages?
for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, 1 Cor 15:22
in regard to the dispensation of the fulness of the times, to bring into one the whole in the Christ, both the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth -- in him; Eph 1:10
whom it behoveth heaven, indeed, to receive till times of a restitution of all things, of which God spake through the mouth of all His holy prophets from the age. Acts 3:21
for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope, that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; Rom 8:20-21
because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and for him, have been created, and himself is before all, and the all things in him have consisted. And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first, because in him it did please all the fulness to tabernacle, and through him to reconcile the all things to himself -- having made peace through the blood of his cross -- through him, whether the things upon the earth, whether the things in the heavens. Col 1:15-20
who shall transform the body of our humiliation to its becoming conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working of his power, even to subject to himself the all things Php 3:21
for God did shut up together the whole to unbelief,that to the whole He might do kindness....because of Him, and through Him, and to Him are the all things; to Him is the glory -- to the ages. Amen. Rom 11:32, 36
He was the true Light, which doth enlighten every man, coming to the world; Jn 1:9
Turn to Me, and be saved, all ends of the earth, For I am God, and there is none else. By Myself I have sworn, Gone out from my mouth in righteousness hath a word, And it turneth not back, That to Me, bow doth every knee, every tongue swear.Is 45:22-23
(Reiterated in Rom 14:11, & Php 2:11)
who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth; 1 Tim 2:4
I know that you can do all things,
and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted. Job 42:2
You do realize that is being intellectually dishonest ... you do not revere them as equally, for if you did then you would not reject that God hates, God's wrath remains, and "never will be forgiven" means "never".
You do realize that is being intellectually dishonest ... you do not revere them as equally, for if you did then you would not reject that God hates, God's wrath remains, and "never will be forgiven" means "never".
Do you understand what "reading a text literally" means? Again....I will ask: Do you honestly think that when I say "it's raining cats and dogs" that poodles and felines will literally be falling out of the sky? Or do you understand the concept of figure of speech, and that the person speaking or writing may not mean EXACTLY what is on the text, or what comes out of their mouth?
Has it occurred to you that something written in the OT was something that was written to the Jewish people 3000 years ago and that by believing it, we are not required to actually DO that now?
In other words, you, like every Christian, picks and chooses the passages they believe to be literally true, or figurative, or allegorical, or metaphorical or .....
You all cherrypick.
Every single poster on this contentious (but to me, very, very silly thread) is demonstrating it with virtually every post.
Virtually every post on this whole sub-forum exhibits the behaviour.
So just stop trying to pretend you aren't doing the same.
Why are you over here on this sub forums and on this thread, if you believe that the discussions are silly, TroutDude? What is your contribution on this topic? God bless and peace.
Why are you over here on this sub forums and on this thread, if you believe that the discussions are silly, TroutDude? What is your contribution on this topic? God bless and peace.
Call it a reality check.
May Gitche Manitou guide your path.
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