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Regarding one person's life: no one would argue Lot lived his life licentiously. While he entertained strangers/angels, he was also willing to give up his daughters to immorality with the wicked folks of S & G, when the people around him were asking to have their way with these strangers. He was saved by the hair of his chinny-chin chin by the light of dawn, in leaving town and settling into a new neighborhood. Immersed as he was in an untoward lifestyle, he is nevertheless called righteous in 2 Peter, 2:7.
Given the same, I don't think anyone of us should call out holy or unholy, for anything of what anyone of us does in our pursuit of spirituality save to consider: have I become a better person than I was yesterday, am I yearning more for G-d and less for the world? Pigs, camels, and goats don't read the comics on Sunday, smoke, dance, or drink alcohol, but their action (or inaction) doesn't in any way make them in one fashion or another more holy for any other behavior on any other day of the week.
These hypothetical pretexts for holiness don't emphasize our relationship with G-d any more than church attendance, knowledge of the bible, association with persons, or specific attire. If we look at one aspect of our beings that we may review as holy, our righteousness is akin to menstrual rags (Isaiah 64:6). Aside from self-examination, we should avoid casting aspersions on one person's habits over another. May G-d have mercy on anyone in examination of their lives, and may they be moved to G-d in relationship through that same examination, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, confession of sin, caring for widows and orphans, and making life easier for other pilgrims in their walk through each day on the earth.
You cannot prove it was alcohol, Jesus would never drink alcohol (Lk. 1:15) and He would never put a stumbling block before man. The very implication is irrefutable. Drunkeness is a sin, the Messiah would NEVER lead a soul to sin. He was accused of being a glutton and drunkard by who???
..... it was the Pharisees who accused Him, why would they have done that? Because they hated Him. Read the context next time.
Acts, the apostles were mocked by some and they claimed they were drunk. Like I said read the context, you are killing me here with your absurd statements. Teenagers can figure this stuff out for themselves. There is no reason you can't, other than the pride of life that will lead to your destruction.
Rom. 13:13-14 shows us not to get drunk since it causes sexual promiscuous actions and thoughts
Rom. 14:13 shows us not to put a stumbling block in our brothers way.
There is nothing to glorify God and Christ by social drinking, it promotes wickedness and harm and death every single day around this world and here you are promoting this harm and death! How many children are killed by a social drinker who was influenced by another who said its all ok? Answer that.
That is the devil who wants people to think that way, not God. How many children are molested because people drink?
How many families are destroyed by drinking?
How many physical and mental abuses are caused by drinking?
How many people lose their jobs and ruin their life because of drinking?
And here you are defending the very essence of all this enormous chaos that only serves Satan.
Oh good grief. Luke 1:15 was referring to John the Baptist who had taken a a Nazirite vow and therefore was not supposed to drink wine. Jesus was not under a Nazirite vow. Jesus drank alcoholic wine. He was accused of being a drunkard because because he was known to drink wine when eating with 'sinners and tax collectors.'
Get over it. And learn the difference between drinking and being drunk. They are two different things. It's a matter of degree.
And Jesus didn't turn water into grape juice. He turned it into wine. In John 2:10 the man who praised the quality of the wine when he commented on how ''every man serves the good wine first, and when the people have drunk freely, then he serves the poorer wine, but you have kept the good wine until now.'' wasn't talking about non-fermented grape juice. Grape juice wasn't served at wedding feasts.
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Nothing created by God can be considered unclean. When God created the plants, trees, and herbs, he pronounced them good. Tobacco would fall into that category as being good in and of itself.
That said, all things should be used for their appropriate purpose. Good things can be misused, but in that case the fault lies with the user and not the substance itself.
I don't see how using tobacco in moderation can be considered a sin, even if it may be imprudent in some situations. For example, lighting up a cig after you have been diagnosed with a lung ailment seems foolish...
If anything, using tobacco may be considered an imperfection, but not an actual sin.
The Bible does not mention smoking, or other means of using tobacco. However, it contains principles showing that God does not approve of unhealthy and unclean habits and thus views smoking as a sin.
Respect for life. “God . . . gives to all people life and breath.†(Acts 17:24, 25) Since life is a gift from God, we should not do anything that would shorten our life, such as smoking. Smoking is one of the main causes of preventable death worldwide.
Love of neighbor. “You must love your neighbor as yourself.†(Matthew 22:39) Smoking around others does not show love. Those who are routinely subjected to secondhand smoke are at higher risk of some of the same diseases that smokers often suffer from.
The need to be holy. “Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.†(Romans 12:1) “Let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.†(2 Corinthians 7:1) Smoking is unnatural and incompatible with being holy—that is, clean and pure—because tobacco users intentionally consume toxins that seriously damage their body.
Apostle Paul who was a prophet of God said ``don't you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God indwells in you? If any man defiles the temple of God, him will God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are ``.1 Corinthians 3;16-17 ............... I remember quitting smoking at the time of my coming to Christ, going cold turkey, and during that time after there was a demon who would blow tobacco smoke in my nose through the spirit as this kind was an unclean spirit........ smoking will attract these evil spirits
You just implied that Jesus was a sinner since he drank wine. And not only that, but you implied that Jesus tempted others to sin when he turned water into wine.
What a load of legalistic nonsense.
No, no, no, it was grape juice...
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